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[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 121 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I'm gonna tap the sign.

(The Drug User's Bible, by Dominic Milton Trott)

Do not let Elon Musk own ketamine. It is a valid depression treatment.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 64 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Well...it's found to effective at halting the immediate effects of severe depression. In other words, it's just enough to stop someone from going suicidal or worse. It has NOT been shown to be a good candidate for long-term use in treating general depression in anyone, in fact, there's a larger nunber of studies correlating Ketamine abuse with mental defect than showing it useful in a medical capacity.

There's a huge difference between those two things. Here's a study that only looked at previous records (no conflict of interest in new study targets) : https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8972190/

Well…it’s found to effective at halting the immediate effects of severe depression. In other words, it’s just enough to stop someone from going suicidal or worse. It has NOT been shown to be a good candidate for long-term use in treating general depression in anyone, in fact, there’s a larger nunber of studies correlating Ketamine abuse with mental defect than showing it useful in a medical capacity.

That, and with the resources available to someone like Elon, I am sure he has some personal doctor giving him regular recreational access if he wants to.

That being said, the article is a bit sensationalist. It shouldn't be ruled out as a contributing factor, but Elon has basically always had that confused arsehole streak to his character.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Valid treatments are abused all the time...

Ket is abused all the time.

Musk isn't taking it therapeuticly, he's taking it recreationally to dissociate from a reality where he's a giant asshole everyone hates and makes fun.

Two completely different uses

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 73 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Growing up the son of a wealthy emerald-mine owning dysfunctional family in apartheid South Africa explains a lot of his behavior too.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And grandson of the head of the “technocracy” party in Canada: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_N._Haldeman

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

People are too hard on drugs. Drugs are great. the ketamine might be helping for all we know. It's money and feeling unwanted as a child that has caused this man's brain damage.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You can see the insecure little boy in him so much. Him and Joe Rogan. They are so obviously doing everything in themselves to have some confidence but not even millions and billions of dollars can fill that hole of abandonment.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 8 points 2 days ago

Little boy feels unwanted.

Little boy commits to getting rich and successful so he'll feel wanted.

Little boy achieves success.

Little boy finds out the money prevents him from forming any meaningful relationships.

The world burns.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Right, no one does the amount of steroids Joe Rogan does without having a severe case of body dysmorphia or something similar

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah sad to see so many people here make the same error that the US (and most of the world) did regarding cannabis for 80+ years.

Stop falling for propaganda like this.

[–] Repelle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The dose makes the poison. I have seen people go from helped by prescription adderall to completely paranoid and detached from reality at high doses.

It can be both bad for him at his dosages and good for others, and I think most people here have understood that, though maybe I’m being optimistic

[–] j_elgato@leminal.space 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean.. we all have that friend who does mushrooms or drops acid and thinks they are the savior of the human race.

The only difference is that the next day they have to go work their shift at IHOP rather than waking up and being the richest person in the world.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Those are true, non-addictive, psychedelics and the world would be a better place if more people were given them with a proper guide. Ketamine is significantly different and addictive.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

Ketamine is the least of this dude's problems.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 23 points 2 days ago

A fragile ego and sense of entitlement could also explain a lot of it. This comes from experience and, thankfully, at least some people can get better.

[–] Hashna@pawb.social 6 points 2 days ago

Imagine coming out of a K hole and finding that you’ve caused the most powerful nation in the world to collapse.

[–] cortex7979@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

Along with those unsettling side effects, the psychopharmacology researcher and her team also found that regular users scored very high on delusional thinking scales and seemed to be convinced that they were receiving secret messages sent to them alone

Sounds like him but honestly money and power is probably enough to explain his delusional behaviour

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Add Kanye West to that list as well

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago

Excuses at this point

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