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U.S. officials familiar with the planning said options for "reclaiming" the vital waterway include close cooperation with Panama's military and, absent that, possible war.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

If this happens the government MUST be overthrown. If your tax dollars are being used to fund the unjustifiable murder of innocent people, you're just as guilty as the ones doing the shooting. It would be better that we lose millions in a nuclear civil war than become the new Nazis.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Case White. Next we will plan an attack on France through the low countries...

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 21 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Panama Canal seize, Greenland, Canada as 51 state.... I guess the 750 US foreign military bases are not enough for them anymore. Viva Colonialism.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

In which case now is a pretty good time for all other nations to start shutting down their US bases and deporting all personnel back to America. We don't need a forward operating base in our country if there's the potential it could be used in such a manner.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)
[–] captainWhatsHisName@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

He doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt on this and should not be allowed to say such stupid shit as if he’s just some guest on a right wing podcast. He actually controls the world’s most powerful military and can make an invasion happen tomorrow.

His threats against allies and sovereign nations should be grounds for impeachment and removal from office before he does more damage do world stability and the reputation of the US.

[–] III@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I don't think people on the global political scale should be given this kind of pass.

[–] match@pawb.social 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

i think at this point we can say for sure that puerto rico is a joke for them

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 4 points 3 hours ago

Just wait until ICE arrest and deport AOC

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 36 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

It's a matter of time before Trump gets us into a war on our own hemisphere, and when he does, he will impose a draft. I wish some "journalist" (there aren't really any left any more) would ask him about his opinions on forcing a draft.

I have a 25 year old son, and there is no way I'll allow him to be dragged off by the government to die in a Trump War whose main objective is to destroy America for Putin, so Trump, Musk and their friends can loot America. There is no way my son will be joining a Trump military for any reason.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

A draft is political suicide, nothing would get him off the white house faster. There's a reason the wars against China and Russia have people from other countries slated to die.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

A year ago most people would have said Project 2025 was "political suicide". Halting 50 billion dollars in foreign aid by executive order would have been political suicide. Giving Elon Musk veto power over government spending would have been political suicide. Having people deported because their speech was offensive to the government would have been political suicide. Insulting a world leader at a public press conference would have been political suicide...

Need I go on?

Fuck, during his first term Trump was impeached for even threatening to cut foreign aid to Ukraine. Now he can cut military aid to Ukraine because Zelensky wasn't grateful enough for it and nobody says a word.

No matter how bad you think the situation is, it's worse. Because almost everyone in America underestimates how much power Trump has to do whatever the fuck he wants.

And look. Trump won big among young men. Trump won because he went on Joe Rogan and talked about how young men don't have positive male role models anymore. Trump won because manosphere influencers like Andrew fucking Tate boosted Trump as a real man, who will bring that manliness back to America. Trump is popular because he sells a vision of tough American manhood. And nothing's more manly than war.

If Trump wants a draft, Trump will sell it as making young men manly again, Rogan and the manfluencers will back him to the hilt, America's conservative young men will line up to register, the Republican Party will praise him for making the tough choices, and nobody over 25 will care because they won't be eligible for the draft anyway.

And then when the war starts, and our young men start dying, we won't hear those stories back home. His very carefully chosen embedded reporters and selected journalists will give us a curated and sanitized version of the war - just like they did in Afghanistan and Iraq - with our brave boys winning tremendous victories, and our local allies doing all the dying, with just enough American dead to give us martyred to praise.

No, if Trump wants a war, Trump will have one. If Trump wants a draft, Trump will impose one. And the American people will back him every step of the way.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Same, putting my kids on the first flight out of the country if I even catch a whiff of Mango Mussolini thinking about imposing a draft.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Wait. What did I miss? Why mango? He's orange.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 hours ago

Mango Mussolini gives that beautiful alliteration

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 42 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Please remember that all this is noise to hide the great billionaire sacking of america. Smoke screen.

[–] yes_this_time@lemmy.world 22 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Threats to other countries isn't noise... It doesn't seem appropriate to hand wave away threats to other people.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 3 hours ago

Feels like they're trying to overwhelm us with a barrage of shit.

The Drake v Kendrick rap battle taught us that refuting your opponent point by point leads to failure. You need to hammer your opponent on his weakest point over and over.

If we focus our efforts on his collapsing of the economy, will we be able to force him to drop the dumb imperialism stuff and focus on defense? I don't know.

[–] whatevercomeon@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Have been for a very long time. (love wkuk)

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

"You're gambling with World War 3."

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

“You don’t have the cards.” 🃏

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine sacrificing your youth and life to serve your country.... And you are given commands by this orange turd.....

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There is no way my son will be serving in a Trump army, fighting in a Trump war. You know that it will be incompetently managed, with more of an emphasis on making sure lots of government war contracts go to those who have properly kissed his ass and paid bribes/kickbacks, rather than the safe and effective deployment of our troops.

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So many things these days scream, "I want action, screw results!" It's almost like as society we don't understand mid/long term thinking anymore and are just constantly chasing instant gratification while digging deeper and deeper into the hole we're trying to get out of.

[–] fishy 2 points 1 hour ago

The market demands results, all hail capitalism. It's only burned the house down twice.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Well.

There goes the element of surprise.

[–] SendPrudes@lemm.ee 22 points 12 hours ago

Scream loudly if you carry a little orange dick.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 53 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

People of the US military: look up "illegal orders" and "Nürnberg" as long as you can find those terms.

[–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago

'Illegal orders”? Why do you think was the reason for Hegseth to fired JAGs?

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

“illegal orders” and “Nürnberg”

American and British courts, as a general rule, refused to accept as a defense the plea of obedience to a superior's illegal orders under any circumstances.

[–] dzso@lemmy.world 27 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Can we please just invade the White House and depose Donald? Seems better for America.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Exactly. He is the root cause of all of our issues. But going this route will cause a civil war - he still has many die hard supporters who are now unemployed and have too much time on their hands, not to mention the propaganda on social media... who will defend trump until everyone is dead. I can see some of his supporters stepping away if there is a draft. The upside, if there is a civil war Russia won’t be able to help Trump since they’ve been losing at their war for a few years.

[–] GoodLuckToFriends 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

May he choke on his own flayed cock force fed to him... but he's really quite the idiot. If he hadn't fired the competent leaders of the military, he could have just asked them to pull the pre-made plans out of the file drawer. I don't remember if it was at the end of bush's term, or when Assange released documents, but there was a period where the fact was being talked about on everything from radio stations to the local pubs that the US had 'just in case' plans for many of their allies. I would also put money on most countries having vague guidelines and goals drawn up for emergencies where a dickhead in an allied country takes power.

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