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Hearings began this week on whether the 14th Amendment disqualifies Donald Trump from running for president in 2024 because of his actions around the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

On Monday morning in Denver, a historic five-day evidentiary hearing began for a lawsuit filed against Trump by six Republican and unaffiliated Colorado voters represented by the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW).

A similar hearing is set for Thursday in Minneapolis.

CREW President Noah Bookbinder has said that his organization brought its suit in Colorado because "it is necessary to defend our republic both today and in the future." The group's complaint accuses Trump of inciting and aiding the mob at the Capitol two years ago, which he denies. He was impeached on similar charges but acquitted by Republicans in the Senate.

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[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I think this is the courtroom, it's under Judge Wallace. Anyone know if we can hear it or when it starts?

https://live.coloradojudicial.gov/?streamId=35b1db1b-2ccc-47e8-9f59-33cd656391f9

Edit: Sound just started.

Edit 2: wtf is the defense lawyer doing, trying to get his Etsy paintings sold? I want to support that guy now.

Edit 3: They're on break and will be back, I didn't catch how long the break is.

Edit 4: They're back but it sounds like it will be short and then break for the day.

Edit 5: It is not short, it's still going.

That's a wrap, they'll start at 8:00 tomorrow morning.

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These updates were gripping

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know you're being sarcastic, but it was for people who came into the thread to see if they wanted to click the link or not, there are no recordings. Basically, trump's lawyers are unsurprisingly smug, want to block everything the people bringing the suit want, and the judge is being ultra fair. If you watched the impeachment trial or Jan. 6th commission, it was very similar to the police testimony there. Meaning, it was really, really bad for the police. Also, I didn't know about this:

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

[–] lechatron 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Those are quite the homoerotic cowboys.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't you go judging Buck and Colt

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not judging. They look like fine young men. I just didn't expect them.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

fine young men

So very fine..

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Holy shit you're not kidding, I love it.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just wanted to say thanks for posting that link.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

NP, it's hard to believe it's not an old timey TV show. You got the shitty defense lawyer and the noble policeman and a very dramatic testimony.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] cliambrown@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Denver Courtroom 209

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Denver, the link should take you right there.

[–] lechatron 2 points 1 year ago (14 children)

It doesn't for me, I just get taken to the main page.

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Block him. He belongs in jail.

[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Think of all the seditionists who will also be disqualified, once #45 sets the precedent.

[–] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone who provided aid, as well.

[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is why getting this conviction right is so important.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The key quote I got from the live stream was the term "specific intent".

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Similar efforts need to be launched in every battleground state for it to stand a chance of blocking his path through the EC

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not just battleground states. Every state should do this. The more the better, imo

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In fairness, thanks to the electoral system all we would need is like 6 specific states and he effectively never win. Iowa, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Arizona, North Carolina, and Missouri would be 79 electoral votes, there are only 538 total, 241 are already virtually unobtainable by conservatives, losing those 79 would mean the most that trump could get would be 218, meaning he could never get the 270 he would need to win and those aren't even removing states like Florida and Texas because that would never happen.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Neat! I live in Pa, so hopefullyy state won't let me down lol

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Specific intent is what she just said.

[–] NewPerspective@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Scott Gessler is an absolute asshole here in the Colorado suit.

[–] Skkorm@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

A triall to decide if the American justice system works? Aren't they currently cosigning a genocide?

Yeah ok. I'll hold my breath.

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