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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

What in the fuck is this idiot doing? I've process datasets far larger than that and never once have I run into a hard drive "overheat". I mean what level of incompetence do you have to have to get a hard drive to overheat processing a measley 60K rows of data?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I've met people who think their desktop PC is the "hard drive" but they're all over 60.

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 171 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

From the same group that doesn't understand joins and thinks nobody uses SQL this is hardly surprising .

Probably got an LLM running locally and asking it to get data which is then running 10 level deep sub queries to achieve what 2 inner joins would in a fraction of the time.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 66 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

You're giving this person a lot of credit. It's probably all in the same table and this idiot is probably doing something like a for-loop over an integer range (the length of the table) where it pulls the entire table down every iteration of the loop, dumps it to a local file, and then uses plain text search or some really bad regex's to find the data they're looking for.

[–] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 28 points 13 hours ago

Considering that is nearly exactly some of the answers I've received during the technical part of interviews for jr data eng, you're probably not far off.

Shit I've seen solutions done up that look like that, fighting the optimiser every step (amongst other things)

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[–] CodeBlooded@programming.dev 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Is this a real post? I can’t seemed to find it on that website “X, formerly known as Twitter.”

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[–] madeinthebackseat@lemmy.world 61 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

As a reasonably experienced "data guy," this seems obviously laughable, but the discussion on X is scary. This guy is a savior in the MAGA world.

We can criticize and poke fun all day, but it doesn't matter much if our message isn't challenging the mindset of those with other opinions.

How do we make better use of our time to impact outside opinion?

[–] masta_chief@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

We must make better memes

I'm not even joking, the world runs on memes now. It's fucking stupid, but we must shitpost to save ourselves

[–] madeinthebackseat@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I agree some form of consistent opposition messaging is needed.

The maga world talks in consistent themes and terminology, which creates a psychological advantage. Unfortunately, it's playground psychology, but if that's the game being played you need to find a way to win at it.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I've been told violence isn't the answer and we shouldn't just shoot nazis and nazi enablers dead.

The way most people change their mind isn't based on facts or figures, but emotions. Specifically, in-group belonging. For most people, and this certainly includes me and you some of the time, what our in-group believes is more compelling than an out-groups supposed facts.

They see that guy as someone in their group so they believe him. They see you as a bad outside bad bad bad liar, so nothing you say is likely to get through. (This comic is worth reading on this topic: https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe )

If you want to change someone's mind, they have to see you as in-group. Not necessarily the same group as what you're arguing with. We all belong to many groups. American, new yorker, white guy, middle aged, yankees fan, etc etc there are many such slices. Like how you can't get a republican to recycle by appealing to environmental concerns (because environmentalists are out-group, so fuck them), but you might be able to get them to recycle via something like "only american ingenuity can turn trash into bridges and tanks!"

This takes a lot of time and effort, and if you don't get them to stop hanging out with the other group, you won't make any lasting changes.

So I think you'd need a multi prong approach:

  • Get them off bad media. Facebook, fox news, etc. This is reinforcing their bad beliefs. Because they see this stuff as trustworthy in-group, it goes right into the worldview.
  • Get them to stop hanging out with their shitty maga-hat friends. This is the social in-group that's reinforcing bad beliefs.
  • Get them to trust you.
  • Gently introduce the idea that maybe the extreme right doesn't have their interests at heart, etc

All of which takes a lot of time and effort, and your opposite number is basically trying to do the same thing. Except they have fox news, trump, and such in their corner.

And, again, I'm told we definitely shouldn't just shoot extreme right wingers and other nazi sympathizers dead. Nor should we burn their houses down. If we're an emergency responder, we definitely shouldn't let them die while thinking to ourselves "they would let so many die. without a thought, their passing deserves no mourning" or similar.

You should definitely nullify if you're on a jury and someone allegedly did violence to a shitty ceo or red-hat, though, bu that's getting off topic.

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, that was an awesome rabbit hole, thank you for the link.

If you want to change someone’s mind, they have to see you as in-group.

Maybe a less manipulative-sounding way to phrase that might be that we should remind people that we're all in it together. The far right media and their billionaire buddies have spent the past decade and a half dividing us, and they succeeded. Idk what it would take to unite this country again, but it at least is a little comforting to have a clear problem statement.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

does elon only hire chip from sales guy vs web dude or something

[–] Fillicia@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago

No he also hire people who created a script to make fake ballots with a bias.

https://bsky.app/profile/denisedwheeler.bsky.social/post/3lhowh3ijgs2f

[–] fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I cannot believe these people make more than me lol.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 28 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (6 children)

They make nothing. They're compensated for destroying things, and considering it's musk, they're likely given relatively little money in return for their time.

Even if the only thing you do all day is sit on the toilet and yell at the Internet, you're already a bigger net positive on society.

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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 133 points 16 hours ago (12 children)

60k isn't that much, I frequently run scripts against multiple hundreds of thousands at work. Wtf is he doing? Did he duplicate the government database onto his 2015 MacBook Air?

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 133 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

60k is laughably, embarrassingly small. It's still sqlite-sized.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 44 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Sqlite can easily handle millions of rows. Don't sell it short

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[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 52 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

i mean its even excel sized depending on how many columns. This is seriously sad and alarming

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Hey now that's real close to the 65,535 16-bit limit (from 20 years ago)

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

Holy shit if this ids lm issue that’s too funny

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[–] 4am@lemm.ee 71 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

A TI-86 can query 60k rows without breaking a sweat.

If his hard drive overheated from that, he is doing something very wrong, very unhygienic, or both.

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[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 322 points 19 hours ago (62 children)

Wow.

I've been processing a couple of billion rows of data on my machine, the fans didn't even come on. WTF are they teaching "experts" these days, or has Elmo only hired people who claim that they can "wrangle data" and say "yes" ?

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

60k rows is generally very usable with even wide tables in row formats.

I’ve had pandas work with 1M plus rows with 100 columns in memory just fine.

After 1M rows move on to something better like Dask, polars, spark, or literally any DB.

The first thing I’d do with whatever data they’re running into issues with is rewrite it as partitioned and sorted parquet.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 2 points 7 hours ago

My go-to tool of late is duckdb, comes with binaries for most platforms, works out of the box, loads any number of database formats and is FAST.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 78 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (6 children)

This shit sounds like when you're mom tells you that the Facebook printed out her bank statement on the tax machine. I'm not smart enough to even guess how you did something dumb enough to make that happen.

How bad are you at writing queries? How does your hard drive overheat even under 100% load? Do you have it smothered under a blanket? Did you crack it up and expose it to cheeto dust? What does running a query on your, presumably, remote database even have to do with your harddrive in the first place? Are you trying to copy the entire database locally to a laptop? Do you know how to tie your shoes yet, or are you still on the velcro?

[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

This shit sounds like when you’re mom tells you that the Facebook printed out her bank statement on the tax machine.

My dear sweet mother asked me somewhere around 2005-06 "If we can fax paper, why not groceries, or pizza delivery?"

Apparently she had believed, for decades, that fax machines literally transported physical paper over phone lines. She has a college degree, and my family is wealthy.

Do not underestimate the mind boggling technical and scientific ignorance of old people who should know better.

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