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Five Republican Minnesota state senators plan to introduce a bill classifying "Trump Derangement Syndrome" (TDS) as a mental illness, defining it as "acute paranoia" about Trump's presidency.

The bill argues TDS causes hysteria, verbal hostility, and aggression toward Trump supporters.

Critics argue this represents a dangerous politicization of mental health diagnoses that could suppress political expression.

The bill will be read Monday before the Minnesota Senate Health and Human Services Committee, where Democrats hold a narrow majority.

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I propose we make CBS a mental illness (Chronic Bootlicking Syndrome), people who have CBS may inhibit the following symptoms:

  1. Blind obedience to authority
  2. Lack of critical thinking skills
  3. Inability to think independently
  4. Blind anger and agressesion towards those who are weaker
  5. Inability to feel sympathy and/or regret
  6. Lack of empathy and/or love
  7. Inability to form genuine interpersonal relationships with ones peers (that are not based on coercion or fear)
  8. Forming strong parasitic relationships with authority figures to the point of obsession
  9. Delusional visions of the world including the past, present, and future
  10. Delusional visions of ones place in society, specifically the idea that they will gain leverage in society by bowing down to authority
  11. Severe lack of class consciousness to the point that they feel closer to the capitalists then their peers (workers)

This list is not complete, people who have CBS are highly advised to read some theory and maybe try feeling human emotions. However if left untreated for too long it may become terminal and kill any ounce of humanity left in the person. As of now there is no cure, however therapy is a great treatment (effectiveness may vary).

[–] dickJohnson@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 3 hours ago

Just gonna leave these five names and their contact info here, for no particular reason at all:

  1. Eric Lucero - District 30 - (651)296-5655
  2. Steve Drazkowski - District 20 - (651)296-5612 (publicly listed home address: 1646 Cherry St. East, Mazeppa, MN 55956)
  3. Justin Eichorn - District 6 - (651)296-7079
  4. Glen Gruenhagen - District 17 - (651)296-4131 (publicly listed biz address: Gruenhagen Insurance & Financial Service Inc., 624 13th St. East, Glencoe, MN 55336)
  5. Nathan Wesenberg - District 10 - (651)296-4913
[–] Canopyflyer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

I would say this would make the DSM of mental illnesses arbitrary, but the DSM also contains at least 1 mental illness based on a Greek mythological character.

Much of the mental health industry is an intersection of religion, new age mumbo gumbo, a dash of science, capitalism, and what society finds socially acceptable. It was only in recent decades that homosexuality and female hysteria (which required clitoral stimulation as the cure) were removed from the hocus pocus DSM, which pretends to have scientific rigor and never has and likely never will.

[–] CherryBullets@lemmy.ca 37 points 8 hours ago

This is the most dystopian shit I've read this week. Impressive, all things considered.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

So explaining reality to a Trump supporter is Trump Derangement Syndrome? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 7 points 2 hours ago

Unironically yes.

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

The real mental illness here is the "Trump following syndrome", where people still support him despite what he does.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 38 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The senators who proposed this should be removed from office. This is beyond a farce.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

And what Trump is doing it not? The only laws that still exist, is the ones that repress people they don't like.

[–] DogEarBookmark@reddthat.com 6 points 7 hours ago

Since when do senators diagnose shit?

[–] ubergeek 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

And this is exactly why those "red flag" laws are a bad idea.

For example, the state can determine anyone who hates Trump is not able to procure a firearm....

[–] ragingdachshund@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

So that shit won’t be covered by insurance either, so here we are right back at square one, you illiterate fucks

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 9 points 9 hours ago

I've always thought Trump Derangement Syndrome better described MAGATurds. THEY are the ones who are absurdly and inexplicably in love with him, no matter how poorly he treats them.

[–] El_Azulito@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Geez, all of this because Obama just had to wear that tan suit in 2014.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 9 hours ago

that bougie dijon mustard he used on his hotdog.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 21 points 12 hours ago

So Gender Dysphoria is bullshit, but TDS requires tax payer money thrown at it...

Shut up GOP you're drunk

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 111 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This is a test. They’re seeing if they can outlaw objecting to Dear Leader by legally classifying it as a dangerous psychological condition.

This is not about mental health diagnoses. This is the pregame to the American edition of the night of the long knives.

[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 48 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This is what Putin does to Russians who criticise him, eg making anti-ukraine war stickers or graffiti.

This is also what used to happen to women who wanted to get a divorce or generally wouldn't obey her father or husband. They called it hysteria and thought that it was because of the 'wandering womb', yep they thought her womb was wandering around her body, woo woo.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 29 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Look up what they did to JFK’s sister. It’s fucking wild. It was considered a “reasonable treatment” at the time.

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[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 27 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

the fucked up part is if there is a president after Trump it will take decades to fix the damage he did in 2 months.

we're still suffering from Regan's decisions

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

There will be a president after him. He cannot live forever, thank fuck.

Whether that president is actually democratically elected is yet to be seen.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Honestly if the US doesn't have a democratically elected president in 4 years its not going to have a president ever, given the last 2 months I doubt there would be anything left to be president of if Trump manages to keep himself in powr for however long he has left to live.

[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

It's a social construct. Much of the population wont understand due to lacking education and deficient knowledge base. Hopefully there will be further explanations for laymen in the future DSM5.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 10 hours ago

TDS was always a sham, a way to write off all concerns and protests of Trump. "Oh don't listen to them, those who question Fearless Leader only do so because they're insane. He is perfect and loves everybody"

[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I can't tell if they're joking or are dead serious anymore.

I have a mental illness -- 2 of them actually, Major Depressive Disorder and Generalized Anxiety Disorder. Possibly will get PTSD thrown in that mix soon too. Therapists and Psychiatrists use a little book called the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, DSM-5 for short. Unless they can convince the APA to include TDS in the DSM-6 then it's not a mental illness.

This is nothing but thought policing and a way to label someone with mental illness when they really don't have one. It's also causing all of the work that's been done recently by NAMI, MHA, and AFSP to try to end the stigma surrounding mental illness to be set back to the era of mental institutions (something that their beloved Reagan did away with).

But what the hell, might as well add it to the DSM-6 and slap TDS on top of all my other mental illnesses 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] uuldika@lemmy.ml 24 points 12 hours ago

they're both. they're trolling us, and they're deadly serious. it's the "haha jk unless" approach to manifesting Overton window shifts with irony, aka meme magic.

my comment here analyzes it more: https://lemmy.ml/comment/17320556

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

...they freaked out because Obama ate spicy mustard...

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago

that dijon mustard.

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah it wasn't really about the mustard or the tan suit or the birth certificate.

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[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 164 points 18 hours ago (22 children)

Never, ever forgive magats for bringing this to our country. Don’t let them squirm out of it or try to play dumb, this is exactly what they wanted. Trump is the symptom and they are the disease

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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Me getting my monthly disability check after beging diagnosed with "TDS":

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, you're just going into the RFK Jr. forced labor camps to replace the workforce lost by the mass deportations, no healthcare, barely any food, ultra-hardcore 12-16 hour workdays, until you fully join the Trump cult.

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 2 points 39 minutes ago

I'm already going cos i have ADHD and depression disorders and i don't blindly follow authority 🤪

[–] Whateley@lemm.ee 54 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

We live in a fucking clown world.

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[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Gaslighting 101: blame your victim(s)

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 24 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

It's funny because the Republicans are the ones suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

Projection. Again.

[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

It's the other way around.

The mental illness is not "paranoia about Trump's doings", paranoia about Trump is normal when you're a decent human being who is thinking clearly and fact-based, because then you should absolutely be paranoid about an unhinged, mentally unstable, dangerous fascist taking power in the US. If that doesn't bother you, I'm sorry, but you're probably simply uneducated. See old Nazi Germany for "prior art" on this one.

What could be considered a "mental illness" is what causes people to believe or support Trump, or the current Republicans, or the MAGA movement, or the current right-wing extremism in general. This is likely an issue of either low education, low intelligence or naive belief in various forms of internet propaganda. Or multiple of those issues combined. So it's not really "illness" but rather a misinformed and/or radicalized person. Similar to what cultists become in real cults. Fascism is very cult-like in general. There's usually a supreme leader and a doctrine (usually based on falsehoods) to live by, and everyone who doesn't do that is considered an "enemy" or at least inferior. What you read on the internet and especially social media or "alternative news sites" is already often weaponized and might be able to radicalize you or lead you away from the fact-based truth. There's TONS of disinformation, sometimes harmless, sometimes funny, but sometimes not. Sometimes it's dangerous, especially if you're not able to spot what's likely true or not. If you aren't able to filter out disinformation, propaganda, lies, half-truths, weird memes, i.e. if you are unable to stick to reputable sources, peer-reviewed science, and so on, then you WILL fall for at least some amounts of misinformation and you MIGHT even become part of a cult (e.g. MAGA movement, conspiracy believers, anti-vaxxers, QAnon, radical right-wing extremism, ...). And again, it's all weaponized and that is useful for various involved parties for various reasons. For example, Putin wants misinformation on social media because with it he can destabilize Western democracies, because common citizens fall for this stuff and lose faith in their own governments. The end result helps Russia, because Western democracies will then do less and be less united against Russian attacks. Billionaires like Musk or Zuckerberg want misinformation on social media because with it they can better control the narrative and extract more money from the users because polarizing and extreme content gives them more interactions and thus money. Billionaires also want less governmental regulation, which is why Musk already demolished several regulating bodies in the US. Autocratic fascists like Trump also want misinformation on social media because with it they can control the narrative better. What these involved parties all don't want is the actual truth, so they are usually anti-science, anti-education, anti independent journalism, and so on. It's better for them if the common people are uneducated and uninformed, and follow the newly created doctrine. It's easy to tell that they want to create their own fake version of the truth, and control the narrative in that way.

Yeah I call it CBS (Chronic Bootlicking Syndrome)

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 14 points 13 hours ago

Dude and or gal. Paragraphs.

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