I’m reminded of the meme:
“Capitalism breeds innovation!
The innovation:”
So does this mean what used to be “the cheap seats” become mid-tier seats? This makes me think of this sub-economy airline tickets. Everything just gets worse and worse.
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I’m reminded of the meme:
“Capitalism breeds innovation!
The innovation:”
So does this mean what used to be “the cheap seats” become mid-tier seats? This makes me think of this sub-economy airline tickets. Everything just gets worse and worse.
It is the E3 part (the Eventual Enshittification of Everything) of Capitalism that They forgot to warn Us about when They invented it.
Fuck these ultra wealthy pop stars. They are part of the problem. There are millions of independent artists across hundreds of genres we can support instead.
And I know it's subjective to a large extent but 90% of pop is absolute garbage.
while Beyonce et al are part of the problem, the ticket monopoly giant capitalist machine sure ain't helping - and that affects even indie artists with a decent following.
True but I go to shows for bands all the time that don't fuck with ticket master and do it all DIY, never paid more than 20-30$ for a ticket.
Those monopolies suck but Beyonce doesn't need to be charging that much money for you to listen and not even be able to see it. It's a greedy cash grab and she looks disgusting doing it.
The problem isn't exactly the pop stars but live nation's monopoly which strangles every aspect of the live music industry. As a musician if you want to preform at almost any large venue you'll have to get in bed with live nation or be black listed. If you run venue you better join live nation's network and use ticket master or else you won't be able to book money making artists. And as a fan you better buy your price gouged tickets through ticket master or else you won't get to see anyone play.
What do you expect from a woman who claims to empower girls, while making them work in her sweatshops, while she's off doing private concerts for amoral Saudi princes.
I'm not one to hate on pop stars but her image always perplexed me. She's clearly an awful human being but somehow avoids being canceled because she's pretending to empower minorities.
Outside of BLM, her image since she went independent has always been to be strategically silent on a lot. She doesn't tweet or even try to communicate her views on the world.
Interviews from when she was in Destiny's Child show she had the education of someone you would expect who spent their teen years working on their singing career instead of focusing on high school or going to college.
She is a symbol because she can be a symbol. Her PR team seem to operate the same way the British Royal Family does; don't comment on controversy and heavily control press events.
And it works.
@HobbitFoot I saw some video last week talking about how Jay-Z was one of the faces of Black Conservatism and I’d never really considered it. Their marriage always seemed more like a corporate merger to consolidate power and branding potential. So it wouldn’t shock me if she’s a very careful curated personality to maximize profits than anything.
I used to go to a lot of concerts, but after COVID they got too expensive. $100 is insane for a ticket. $900 is almost rent. Who is her target audience?
you got a lot of imbeciles in this world. So them
Wait 900$ for a concert? That's dumb enough for me.
they've gotten crazy if you are a big-big name like Swift, Beyonce, Drake, etc. Don't know how people can drop that kind of scratch!
I don't know if there is anything in live entertaining I would pay 900, or actually I'm pretty sure there is nothing.
I saw this posted elsewhere a few days ago, and people made a good point that folks who are blind or have limited vision still go to concerts and will buy those tickets. The price is another I guess, but the seats themselves are valuable to the blind community.
To be fair, a blind person probably wouldn't know the difference.
These aren't marketed as "handicap accessible seating" but rather as "yall poors can't afford my $900 stadium seats, so I have to capitulate at the request of my management team".
I appreciate your optimism, though!
Every sunday I put my trash on the curb which gives the homeless an opportunity to rummage through it for anything useful. Simply put Im a philanthropist. Im also really good at putting lipstick on a pig.
I'm all for accessibility but I don't think this that's what this is.
I don't understand why people are willing to pay that much for tickets. The "market" is ridiculously inflated. After my last experience at a live nation event first and only one in a long time, not for me not dealing with that cluster fuck and rip off trap ever again.
Live nation ticket checking procedure is dumb AF. You have to be online to show the ticket but because the Wi-Fi and 5g arent working because 10k plus people are trying to use them it causes a problem. Then they don't give you an arm band so every time I had to piss or whatever I had to show my ticket to get back to my seat. I cussed them out the 3rd time, almost got booted. I hate getting controlled like idiot sheep. Live nation doesn't accept cash and want 17 bucks a drink. Force you to buy liquid death water too because fuck you pay me.
I'm sticking to smaller venues, ones that dont have share holders to impress.
I agree with your sentiments, but you don't need to cuss out the people just working at the venue. By all means boycott any and all events that go through live nation / ticketmaster, but there's no need to pour your anger on the venue workers.
If i was forced to buy a ticket, i would prefer the cheaper one.
900 dollars... lol
900 is insane. Ain’t no concert worth the price of a computer where I can make my own damn music lol.
Before everyone freaks out (and yes, this shit is stupid-expensive), Beyoncé isn't a complete piece of shit. But I guess you can afford this when you charge that much:
Beyoncé’s tour paid $100,000 to extend DC Metro hours after weather delayed show
Beyoncé’s “Renaissance” tour paid $100,000 to keep all 98 Metro stations in the Washington, DC, area open for an extra hour after Sunday’s show at the outdoor FedExField venue was delayed because of heavy rain and lightning, a news release from the transit authority said.
I paid $60 for 5th row tickets to Ween at red rocks and $5 for a hit of acid - probably better than a front row Beyoncé ticket. $900 for anything but a combined front row/meet and greet/over the pants HJ from an artist sounds just absolutely insane to me.
Times like these I'm so glad I love metal. I can pay 30 bucks to WATCH, listen and go sick to a band full of talent. I'd be livid if I was an artist and saw that my fans were having to pay $900
This sounds like streaming music with extra steps.
So by Beyonce's own math, only about 17% of her performance's value is actually the music.
Sounds about right.
Under the stage for $75, all you hear boomy bass and foot tapping from one of the biggest stars of all time!
Beyonce is worth over $1/2 BILLION. Fuck off.
the new VIP tickets will be listening from under the stage and having the opportunity to catch glimpses of the performance through the floorboards
This is just fucking ridiculous. Paying $157 to go to a concert for a regular seat for me is already a bit much, let alone this bullshit. The saddest thing is that I bet these seats will still sell out.
While this is shitty, I don't really care about Beyoncé and didn't subscribe to this community to see news about her. I hope it doesn't end up as a dunking on mainstream music community instead of a showcasing sweet alternative music community.
I hear you, this is really more about the state of concerts & concert tickets which medium-sized and old-school alternative & indie acts still have to deal with… Pearl Jam has fought the good fight since the 90s, The Cure is still dealing with it 30 years later.
I reckon it’s good call posting this article. It’s painfully obvious we aren’t here to discuss Beyoncé and her catalogue or talent. Got some really nice engagement with this one.👍
My nosebleed Taylor Swift concert tickets were cheaper than this, and I didn't miss a single scene of the show.
Beyoncé really thinks she's better than Taylor?
Beyoncé really thinks she’s better than Taylor?
Why not? Her fans do. You say it like its something that can be true, that one artist's art is objectively better than another's. I think they both make uninspired boring music personally. In either case they are both very popular and sell out shows wherever they go.
Nothing wrong with liking pop but she has vastly more money than I will ever earn. I rather support indie or up and coming performers that won't take my financial support for granted.
Also helps to enjoy a wide variety of music so if one scene is getting overpriced or doesn't tour your area, you can still enjoy and support other acts.
Empowering, yaaaaaaaaaas queen!
Does she sing live or is it playback?