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[–] vermaterc@lemmy.ml 6 points 19 hours ago

Can anyone ELI5 why it's bad? Apart from contributior being Microsoft

[–] xtools@programming.dev 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

did we arrive at the second stage of embrace, extend, extinguish?

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

No, Microsoft would likely sooner fully adopt the Linux kernel tbh.

It aligns with their software/service as a service model.

My bet is you’ll see a “windows 11” compatible user space running on Linux a la WSL ( LSW? ) in the coming decade.

I know Linux engineers who moved to Microsoft generally for this purpose

[–] xtools@programming.dev 1 points 16 hours ago

that's how the "extinguish" phase start - integrate it closely into your own product, so people use yours instead

it's a trap

[–] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How about no? The whole proposal looks shady. Where Microsoft says "trust", I do not.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dunno about this one chief; call it Microsoft paranoia.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

One of the better security modules in the kernel was developed by the NSA.

It’s open source software and Microsoft can’t force it in, the open source model will handle this properly.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 1 points 16 hours ago

Okay well, It wouldn't have been the first code blob in the kernel (looking at you HDMI)

[–] 1984 25 points 1 day ago

Every Microsoft idea is always bad for Linux.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh geeze, that format drives me nuts. Is there a tldr?

[–] LodeMike 5 points 1 day ago
This adds the Hornet Linux Security Module which provides signature
verification of eBPF programs.
[–] hellofriend@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Amigo, it's 5 paragraphs and two of those are a quote.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, there's two different links, the kernel lore one is the one I was complaining about.

[–] hellofriend@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Oh, I didn't think to check. Figured they were the same. But yeah, looking at it now it looks rather horrible, doesn't it?

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago

Very interesting. I'm sure it will find some consumers for this code, in systems that use codesign.