Political Memes

You’re not wrong about the reward being earned. That’s definitely the unspoken part of it.

When I grew up religious, the conversion was that communism was a bastardization of god’s plan, so it’s inherently evil. Basically, it cannot be as pure and perfect with men in charge so it will fail every time.

You’d think they’d want to try and be more like their god and his plan for their heaven but they just reject it.

Heaven only works for them if they imagine that they will be able to look down and see hell.

See, this is the part I can't get behind. An eternity of that disparity with even the smallest scrap of empathy would eventually be unending torment. Every day is just more "oh yeah, hell is a thing and I can't do anything about it..."

They should know better:

Workers in the Vineyard

Right wing politics can be summed up as: Exclusive & Sadism

Ancaps/libertarians as well.

And that the only acceptable form of socialism is charity. And like. FFS

I think they just lack vision and don't actually want to change the real world, just dream of a better place

Seen this clip from some american fundie podcast that was... a choice.

This person was asked something like, if you could have world peace, but all governments become socialist, would you do it? They said no and fucking justified their answer with a partial quote from something like Deuteronomy 15:7-11, claiming that well the bible says there'll always be the poor so socialism is actually bad because of that, and a quick search to see if I could find it there's a lot of stuff echoing the same stuff, that socialism is unbiblical etc.

What the actual fuck is wrong with these people? I'm irreligious but was raised Christian, this is so vehemently counter to my understanding of Christian teachings (the flavour of which I was raised has atheist ministers so there's that), which was more or less, raise everyone up, accept everyone for who they are, help people, don't turn a blind eye to injustice and like just be decent to each other. Was this podcast prosperity doctrine shit or something else because yeah wow, it's honestly sinister to me.

Basically heaven is a mindfuck.

Its not that you forget the person. You gain a perfect understanding of the situation. Like when your child has to go to jail for some crimes they committed. You may be sad they went to jail, then understand why they went to jail, then agree it was right that they were put in jail.

Not a perfect analogy, but something like that.

"The nations" is just fancy for "non Jews". Remember that the bible predates modern nation states by more than a millennium.

inequality in heaven is a common theme in Jesus's parables.

Is that so? I can think of the story with the lamps where it's about getting into the kingdom of god or the treasure in the field where it's about finding the kingdom of god. Or that the poor will inherit the kingdom of god while rich people cannot get into it. Nothing about inequality inside the kingdom of god.

You have to keep in mind that the kingdom of god isn't really heaven as we think of it even tho Matthew uses the wording kingdom of heaven (to avoid the word god as a good jew). We think of heaven as life after death but the kingdom of god is on earth when Jesus returns and the dead arise and he builds his kingdom here.

This is similar to what Rick Riordan (author of Percy Jackson) suggests in one of his other works - that the afterlife is simply whatever you believe it to be. It's pretty comforting imo.

So complete justice system reform, cut the police force, strong wide reaching unions, and strong social welfare.

Yup. The common answer to "why does evil exist" is that humans have free will.

Therefore it follows that if there is no sin in heaven, there is also no free will.

it's almost like American imperialism has made sure that any attempt has failed by economic and military disruption and injecting dictators with the goal of dissuading others from trying.

the second there's a success story western capitalism becomes unnecessary and a better system comes into view.

I don't think most religious people have any beliefs, they just roll with whatever stances are currently popular amongst their peers. If a large enough number of their peers say their god says slavery is valid, then they will say slavery is valid, or a million other horrible things

Nah, they're the ones complaining jesus is too woke

Self censor so hot right now!

Jesus was a socialist