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[–] bingBingBongBong@lemm.ee 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

These articles and polls, framing trump's deranged russo-imposed plans as a legit proposal, do not help at all.

They just normalize this fucking insane shit

[–] Crowjack@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

Yeah, it's frustrating to see anyone even bother spending time on this nonsense. It does just normalize the absolute insanity of what is going on - it's more damaging to publish this poll than to ignore it altogether imo.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Reporting on this just helps him.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Surprised its only 78% that oppose. What the hell are the 22% smoking?

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

They’re all from Alberta

[–] quack@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago

Sovereign country not keen on being annexed by psycho neighbour, more news at 6.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 119 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Four in five Canadians strongly oppose the idea of joining their neighbours to the south, and a majority, 78 per cent, are concerned with the rhetoric Trump keeps pushing.

So 20% of Canadians are traitors and/or idiots. Probably the FUCK TRUDEAU flags and bumper stickers crowd who complain about their first amendment rights.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah... These headlines are always so optimistic (probably because our media is owned by americans)

"Overwhelming support for canada. Nothing to see here folks!"

Uhhhh... 1/5 canadians are literal traitors to the nation. Stand on guard against these morons. Elbows up.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Polls generally are complete garbage.

If I become Supreme Leader of the US (it seems a lot more probable than it used to) I will make public polls illegal. If you want to poll people you need to do it in the privacy of your own home with the curtains drawn.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's a baseline 20-30% of all polls taken over the world that is made up of hateful nutjobs and conspiracy theorists

There could be someone running for office who has figured out how to solve all the world's problems for free, and that 20-30% will vehemently oppose them.

[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 35 points 1 week ago

"Why should we solve the world's problems for free? The rest of the world should pay us!"

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have long said that even in a Utopia you would have people unhappy about the way things were.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the premise that makes Iain M Banks' Culture series of novels so compelling.

Even though it is a massive interstellar Type2 society that is "fully automated luxury communism" many people are going to be problematic, angsty, and childish. The result is an always interesting plot.

A more thorough exploration of someone living in a relative utopia but being a long streak of misery by nature is Delaney's novel Triton. Main character is a jerk and you get to explore why, while extremely cool things are happening all around.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I love that about the Culture novels: they are socially coherent. Banks is very keen on telling us about the psychology of this utopian society.

I once tried some Delaney but dropped it as psychedelic hippie scifi. I hope I wasn't unjust in doing that, but afair it was from that time. Maybe it even was Triton. It was all confusion ("tripping") and exploring a completely desire-based, erm, exploration.

Recently I read (and barely managed to finish) Alfred Bester's The Stars My Destination, which seems to fit into a similar category (Beatnik scifi?). It had way too many shortcomings, plus it was an old translation that only managed to make the latent racism/sexism more prominent. But it was also very inventive and captivating.

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[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

But what about the freedom to lose one's life savings to an insurance company?

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

It’s needs to be 100% of Canadians. Those who don’t oppose us becoming the U.S. aren’t Canadian, and can kindly GTFO of this amazing country.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

78% is considered almost a statistical impossibility for these kinds of things. This is the polling equivalent of "every last person".

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

20% Russian bots/Elon bots

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I'm having a hard time finding the link to the poll itself...

But I suspect that the poll had distinct categories for "strongly oppose" and "oppose".

So either the article is lumping the two responses together (which would be shitty because they explicitly say "strongly") or it's likely that the number of Canadians who are open to it is <20.

From previous polling I've seen, it was around 13% who were open to it. Not even saying they would, but merely open to the idea.

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

I'm hoping that the 20% includes mostly people who are just opposed (but not strongly). Still idiots, but not likely traitors.

[–] FearfulSalad@ttrpg.network 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can we stop posting this headline? Again and again and again?

It's not news.

If a sizable portion of the population did want to do something stupid, that'd be news.

This is... It's not even propaganda. It's just a waste of our limited time and emotional capacity for idiocy.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

We should poll how many americans are willing for their state to be the 11th canadian province.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It made me lol, and not in a good way: why would there even be a poll?

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[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Americans also overwhelmingly oppose Canada becoming 51st state

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I miss boring liberal America where our absurd bullshit was just ours and not leaking out into the world.

[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

I for one support my state becoming part of Canada

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hell, I wish my own state wasn't a US state.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

All of them I believe.

[–] Buelldozer 35 points 1 week ago

Well No Shit. Why would anyone want to buy into the hot mess we've got going right now?

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No shit, no one wants this. Why would we??

[–] ifItWasUpToMe@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The guy down the street from me with a giant “Trump 2024” flag probably wants it. Fucking traitor.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

What sane person would want to be under the control of the Orange Turd.

[–] thejml@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile Puerto Rico sitting over there like what about us!? We’re supposed to be the 51st state!

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

would they take us as the 11th province?

[–] SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de 10 points 1 week ago

Sorry, you're already the 47th oblast.

[–] SuperUserDO@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hell. Don't take the whole thing. Just move the boarder to the 45th parallel as opposed to the 49th.

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] SuperUserDO@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

I mean. Imo that's only fair. Sure they are getting one of the world's larger economics (WA state + Portland), they are also getting Montana, Idaho, and a good chunk of the Dakota's...

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[–] tflyghtz@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago
[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Do 22% of Canadians live in Alberta?

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