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[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 381 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Every single person sent to El Salvador were innocent. Not a single one of them had their due process! This is all bullshit. ICE must be destroyed

[–] CitricBase@lemmy.world 166 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yep. Innocent until proven guilty, and not a single one of them was so much as indicted, much less charged or convicted. Blatant disregard for the constitution as well as human rights, everyone all the way up the chain of command needs to be prosecuted for this.

[–] Snowflake2901@lemmynsfw.com 73 points 4 days ago (5 children)

the fact that the democrats aren't filing articles of impeachment every single day tells you where they're at

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

You'd need ~~four~~ twenty Republican senators to convict. I can't imagine that happening.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It'd still be something. Bemoaning "oh there's no point because it's hopeless" gives these fuckers more fuel because the opposition is just etting it happen without any complaints.

It'd be like a cop kneeling on your neck and not bothering to scream "help I can't breathe! they're killing me!" because you've just accepted that they're going to suffocate you to death.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It would be something. Would it be the most effective use of their time? Unlikely.

"Something must be done, this is something, therefore this must be done" is a joke, not something to take seriously.

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[–] Snowflake2901@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

don't need to convict to gum up the works of government while the fascists try to do their genocide

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I don't even think we can gum up the works if we tried. If we try they will just do things without a law saying they can or can't. It's not like they are facing any consequences.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You’re right we should just go down with decorum instead of with a fight, it’s the right thing to do 🙄

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

It's just that fighting lawfully is not enough. There are other ways to fight this, but filing for impeachment won't do it.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

The works are sufficiently gummed already. Any path forward seems to involve action only implied in the constitution. Maybe a rereading of the Declaration of Independence is in order as well.

[–] ubergeek 4 points 4 days ago

Before that, though, we need SOMEONE to actually propose the articles...

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

All it takes for evil to triumph is for "good men" to do nothing.

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[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 45 points 4 days ago

You're asking Hitler to get rid of the Gestapo.

[–] Mohamed@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

Thats the thing. Rounding up people from the street will not catch any criminals (legally speaking), by definition: if they committed a crime, and a judge deemed them guilty, they would be in jail or they would be fugitives. In either case, they are not unknowns, and authorities must've already knew about them. Getting people randomly off the street, you cannot, legally speaking, be catching criminals.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 89 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What Nazi Germany classed as "untermenschen:"

  • People of Jewish descent
  • People of Slavic descent
  • People of African descent
  • People of Romani descent
  • Homosexuals
  • The mentally disabled
  • The physically disabled
  • Political dissidents
  • POWs

Qualifying people were dehumanized, arrested and initially deported, but eventually taken to camps and either systematically exterminated or put into slavery.

It's not enough to say that there are parallels, America is playing exactly by the Nazi guide book.

[–] tacobellhop@midwest.social 8 points 4 days ago

Also worth noting they basically learned all that from Andrew Jackson the first time around

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 119 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is, unfortunately, incredibly common in law enforcement circles. If you're paranoid, EVERYTHING is gang related somehow.

Not only that, but they circulate bad information among themselves. Booklets about how every sports team has it's own gang affiliation, etc.

From another article, one of the tattoos in question:

https://www.latintimes.com/man-detained-ice-autism-awareness-tattoo-still-sent-prison-after-officers-declared-him-clean-579373

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 34 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The US has a greater obsession with tattoos than Japan by this point. If you go to a place in Japan and show off a tattoo, the owner might ask you to leave. The US they'll gulag your ass.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Only of you're brown, white people with tattoos are perfectly acceptable, just look at all the neonazis

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Just look at our current secretary of defense.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 9 points 4 days ago

Now that's a fucking gang tattoo if I've ever seen one. Not like the literal Awareness Ribbon. 🎗️

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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

And the tramp stamps on their bleach blonde bimbos.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Seems like most cops have tattoos now.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 5 points 4 days ago

Those are the gang tattoos we need to worry about.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

It's projection; those are often literal gang tattoos.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not only that, but they circulate bad information among themselves. Booklets about how every sports team has it’s own gang affiliation, etc.

We all know it's the bowling teams that are the gangbangers. I mean look at them. total miscreants!

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] JSocial@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Nobody fucks with the Jesus!

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Also, I'm going to add here, the pickleball maffia.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 80 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I know we're largely focused on stopping Trump, and we need to.

But how do we save these guys?

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Get NATO Countries (excluding the US, obviously) to send the military to liberate El Salvador.

Edit: Reworded for clarification

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That is not how NATO works or what it is

Not saying we shouldn't try to free political undesirable prisoners, just saying that that is not what NATO is for, won't happen

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Are there Non-Nato countries with a military capable and willing to do that?

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For clarification, I said NATO Countries excluding the US

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[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

The courts might be able to stop future renditions, but the president or Congress have the power to end this or return them. Congress could cut off the funding (bribes) to El Salvador or president could force them to release people.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 65 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This is the only standard by which the Trump administration operates.

[–] doctortofu@reddthat.com 69 points 4 days ago (2 children)

America has its Gestapo now. How much longer until they create SS that swears fealty not to the US but to Trump?

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They've already sworn fealty to Trump. Non-fascists don't join ICE.

[–] Bremmy@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

Yep, they're all Nazis or sympathizers

That was 10 years ago. DHS is the Gestapo you're seeing now, courtesy of the Patriot Act. They've already sworn fealty to Trump. People are looking at January 6th as an isolated event, but it proved how far the right-wing could get if they wanted to forcefully take over the government.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

This is horrific. Shame of the country.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 22 points 4 days ago

Republicans: Meh, what's the big deal?

[–] gon@lemm.ee 17 points 4 days ago

NotTheOnion

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