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I’m German. The USA made it possible for me to grow up in a functional democracy.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans died so I could have that privilege.
They died fighting for my unborn ass's rights, against my grandparents' fellows.
Fortunately, my grandparents weren’t involved in killing them, but that was pure chance.
Growing up, the USA was the shining beacon in the west.
The country that was so much better, freer and cooler than mine.
I learnt English listening to American Forces Network, the radio station of the US armed forces in Germany, every night.
Literally my main goal in life was to be able to one day move to the USA and become a citizen.
I lived in the USA for one year pre-9/11 and could hardly wait to finish my studies and maybe one day acquire a Green Card.
But after 2001 (damn, that’s already 24 years ago), it started to turn.
I celebrated when the German chancellor refused to support the USA in the illegal invasion of Iraq.
Then I stayed up every night, watching the live footage from the reporters embedded with the invasion forces.
It was awesome. It was awful.
Nowadays it’s just the latter.
Trump v1 was a fluke, Trump v2 put the USA on the same level as Russia for me.
(I know enough Russians to know the situation is comparable. Russians aren’t one single bit more evil or more complacent than US Americans in 2025. And neither are Chinese.)

tl/dr: Trump’s second term has absolutely obliterated my belief in the USA.
Sorry for the rant, I’m a bit drunk and frustrated with…vaguely gestures at everything.

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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It's horrible being an American watching what's happening and not being able to do much about it. I grew up during the height of the Cold War, seeing Trump kissing Putin's ass is enough to make me puke. Then there's the erosion of civil rights, which was something that people died to attain, the erasure of the accomplishments of women, African Americans, Native Americans, and many others, the daily trampling of the Constitution, the disappearing of "undesirables", etc. It's like living in a completely different country than I lived in just a few short months ago.

The US has never been perfect, obviously, but it's been better than it is now. You have every right to feel the way you do.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 9 points 6 days ago

And you have an obligation to look at the current trajectory and wonder whether the person you'll be in 10 years would be content with what you're doing right now.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If it helps, most of us hate what's going on. Even a lot of republican voters have woken up and realized what's going on. Sadly, however, it's too late.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Thanks. I know. But it doesn't really help until something concrete actually develops from that hate.

Fun fact: At its absolute height, in 1945, 10% of Germans were members of the nazi party NSDAP.
That was enough to correctly label the entire country as "Nazi Germany".

In 2025, 45% of Americans support the Republican Party in anonymous polls. Draw your conclusions.

[–] sharkfinsoup@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

While I don't disagree with the essence of what you're saying, those numbers are a bit misleading. There's only about 38.8 registered Republicans in the US which comes to about 11.1% of the US population.

Even if you take the 2024 election results, only about 22.6% of the population voted Republican

[–] superkret@feddit.org 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

There’s only about 11.1% registered Republicans

Which is more than 10% at the height of Nazi Germany, when party membership was required for many career paths

22.6% of the population voted Republican

In the last elections in Germany 1933, 26.4% of the population voted for the Nazi party.
And that was with armed SA thugs at the entrances to the voting booths.

[–] sharkfinsoup@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Like I said, I still agree with the comparison and even more now that I see both numbers. But the initial numbers you used were not as related as the comment made them seem

[–] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago

I know they were a bit misleading, but the only reason for that is: I couldn't find actual numbers for GOP membership after 15 minutes of searching.
My point still stands: It doesn't require support from a majority of the population for a country to become fascist.
And currently, there is enough support to turn the US into a fascist country.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 13 points 6 days ago

So you're saying you owe us a fight? An overthrowing of our fascist government?

We appreciate it! Thank you we accept! We'll be totally square after you do this for us! Thanks again.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 10 points 6 days ago

As many people from the us have said we basically feel the same. I almost never drink but have the last two times trump has spoken in a formal setting. Its funny you mention russia as we all know much of this right wing crap is coming out of putin and while we seem to be crumbling under remember that he is trying the same with the rest of the free world. Its more important than ever that other countries not succumb and I have no reason but hope but I hope we come out of this and back to sanity.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 days ago

What about the current trajectory of politics in Germany? I’ve heard some disturbing things about AfD.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

thanks for the read. we have to see what Americans are capable of

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 7 points 6 days ago

I'm from the US, though have lived outside it for 10 years now. I commented a while back on another post that I felt like I was going through all the stages of grief of losing a loved one. Yeah, that loved one may not have been perfect, but it was mine. Though, the more I thought about it, the more I realized how blind I was to some of the flaws, especially after living so long outside of it. I think it partially became that I was grieving some idealized version of the thing in my head never having existed as well as the real thing getting yet worse.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

I was the same way. I knew we had our flaws, but I believed in the people. I believed in the country. I served for six years and a tour in Iraq. Even then I believed in the good. Sure it was shaky then. But after having trump run 3 fucking times and seeing so few people change their minds, I'm over trying to help. Let us fall. Tariff us, sanction us, whatever it takes.

[–] 1984 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I learned about America mostly through Hollywood... Hollywood still pushes the same hero crap but reality has changed significantly.

Tom Cruise was lucky he made Top Gun 2 before Trump era of idiocracy.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

The USA has been under seige from foreign threats since it's inception. Right now, it looks like the influence of Eastern European oligarchs and oil billionaires from the MidEast is having a moment right now with the Puppet Pres. but remember that literally every single trustworthy poll of Americans shows that the majority of us are against what's happening right now

[–] Sektor@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

USA is just going back to it's roots, being a racist bully oligarchy.