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GTA Liberal candidate apologizes for suggesting people claim China's bounty on Conservative (www.cbc.ca)
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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you want to know the main difference between liberal and conservative watch the fallout of this.

Conservatives rally around their member when their members get out of control, lie and deflect, no matter how bad the crime or accusation was. (see Pete Hesgeth situation)

Liberals will boot this man from the party if what he did was actually bad and deserves a punishment.(which in this case it certainly was)

The left is able to hold their own accountable at the cost of losing some power, the right is too hungry for power and would rather keep a horrible person if it keeps the seat.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago

Liberals will boot this man from the party if what he did was actually bad and deserves a punishment.(which in this case it certainly was)

He made the comments in January. He apologized on Friday. It's now Sunday, and not a word from the party...

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Paul Chiang — the Liberal candidate for Markham-Unionville — suggested during a local Chinese-language media news conference in January that people should claim the bounty on Joe Tay — currently running for the Conservatives in the Toronto riding of Don Valley North.

"To everyone here, you can claim the one-million-dollar bounty if you bring him to Toronto's Chinese consulate," Chiang said, according to the Toronto Association for Democracy in China (TADC).

lol

[–] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

I think pointing out your opponent is a prodemocracy enemy of China is a losing strategy for any English speaking audience.

[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

In December, Hong Kong police put out a bounty and arrest warrant for Tay — worth $1 million HK, roughly $184,000 — and other China democracy advocates. Tay is a co-founder of Canada-based NGO HongKonger Station.

The warrants are largely seen as the Hong Kong government targeting vocal critics based abroad. At the time, Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly denounced the bounties.

"This attempt by Hong Kong authorities to conduct transnational repression abroad, including by issuing threats, intimidation or coercion against Canadians or those in Canada, will not be tolerated," she said in a statement in December.

[–] SamuelRJankis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People always defend MP salaries saying we need it to get a certain level of competence, but purely overpaying doesn't guarantee much.

However time and time again these people do things that wouldnt fly for someone nmaking minimum wage.

Despite how the article is portrayed(91% on the meta polls) all this guy needs to do is stfu and collect 800k.

https://338canada.com/35058e.htm

[–] Kobek@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

MPs and all politicians should be paid the mean income of the people they represent. That way if they want a pay raise they actually have to work to increase the quality of life for the people who they represent.

[–] SamuelRJankis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Voting reform and people actually picking better candidates instead of trying to kick out whatever incumbent party out would go a long way for people actually worth their pay as well.

Letting mediocre politicians linger around the system to long is how we got Pierre.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Not just their salary, but that sweet sweet pension as well.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The problem I have with this is that richer ridings will have richer MPs so people will start treating those ridings like cabinet positions.

[–] Dearche@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While true, I think if the population they derive their income from isn't merely of that of their riding, but the average of their region instead (entire city/province, not just the riding), then it will seriously minimize the impact.

But even without that, this would strengthen the vote of low income areas as there will be less competition, making those that represent high income areas worth less since they tend to be outnumbered by low income areas. You either get a high wage, or have an easier time not only getting voted in, but having more peers representing people in similar situations.

Still think spreading the average is better, but overall I think it can work better than it currently is either way.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Nice points. I appreciate the perspective.