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[-] bstix@feddit.dk 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hexagon pixels. (Or weirdly shaped areas to be filled). It would force more creativity and get rid of all designs from previous rounds.

[-] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 7 points 11 months ago

Weirdly shaped canvas yes, weirdly shaped pixels no, in my opinion. Not until I have a computer with hexagon pixels.

Doing a theme each year with an appropriately shaped canvas would make each year feel distinct

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Have some of the rules (like cooldown time and overdrawing penalty) vary spatially across the canvas. So there could be a “fast/dynamic” corner where it’s easy to interact and compete, and a “slow/static” corner where things stay put more (with intermediate values in between).

This could also be good feedback for future runs, because people could experience a variety of settings on the same canvas and see which they prefer.

[-] Deebster@lemmyrs.org 6 points 11 months ago

Run an extra day or two, so everyone gets some weekend and week day? Between shift workers and countries with different weekends, Sat/Sun is still a workday for many.

Thursday-Monday feels good, perhaps with one of the modifications discussed here halfway through.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 3 points 11 months ago

I think one issue is that it's no fun to defend your patch for too long. Any future even is likely to have twice as many participants, and anything drawn on the Thursday is likely gone by the Monday without a team to defend it.

[-] Deebster@lemmyrs.org 2 points 11 months ago

That's true, but one thing I liked about r/place was the evolution of designs - for example a massive flag would appear early on, be fought over and then the flag would shrink to a more defensible size and the rest of the flag became a different thing. The time lapse was fascinating because of this.

The culture here is more cooperative and less troll-y (trollful? trollesque?) so I'd hope/expect to see more collaborative solutions. I know once I'd helped place the fuck cars logo I threw my pixels into helping build unfinished designs or repair existing ones.

[-] vintprox@geddit.social 1 points 11 months ago

I agree about the "evolution" part of the designs. People really need some sweet time, at least 10 days (starting Friday, finishing at the next Sunday).

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, it will be interesting how the community here evolves over time. Definitely this Canvas event had people working together, respecting other designs, and helping out other projects; but I wonder if it would be the same if we didn't have ample space.

[-] Deebster@lemmyrs.org 1 points 11 months ago

Oh, it definitely wouldn't be the same - five seconds with a history book could tell you that - it's just a question of how quickly we'd go savage 😅

[-] Midnightmoon@toast.ooo 6 points 11 months ago

Offical user stats after it is done. Maybe a map to see all your placed pixels? Something like that.

[-] itsmect@monero.town 2 points 11 months ago

Placement data is available in the official final post, it's up to us to process it into nice maps. I expect that to happen in the coming days.

[-] Midnightmoon@toast.ooo 1 points 11 months ago
[-] A10@kerala.party 5 points 11 months ago

Better mobile support for templates, like buttons to toggle visibility

[-] Midnightmoon@toast.ooo 3 points 11 months ago

Also, after its done we can do something like r/place atlas too.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago

Don’t end till there are no more virgin pixels.

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

What about designs that contain white?

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

You paint them white properly so they no longer show up as as virgin pixels.

[-] GlennMagusHarvey@mander.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

I don't think this was possible this time, but someone suggested this possibility upthread.

[-] itsmect@monero.town 3 points 11 months ago

I'd like the option to place white pixels on virgin white pixels as a form of grief protection.

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Permanent one working with a different model. Like 1 pixel per hour with a fixed drop rate (instead of this “stay and place as fast as you can for best performance”), and you can hold like 36 pixels. So basically you drop a few dozen pixels daily then you're done. After every 100,000 clicks, you move the window 100 pixels to the right, making the leftmost 100 pixels locked forever creating a slowly growing endless immutable banner.

[-] theoretiker@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

Infinite German flag? Sounds like an infinite German flag to me

[-] Vittelius@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

You could mitigate that by adding a limited, rotating color pallet. every time pixels are locked two colors are taken away and two different colors are added. You would always be able to see beforehand when certain colors would be made available, enabling a new level of planing. It also forces creative solutions in defending your art

That idea would even work standalone without the immutable thing

[-] xuv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Call this variant Tapestry

[-] Danterious@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Maybe all of Lemmy could play a game like chess, pokemon, etc. Like twitch plays videos.

[-] Autian@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

The chat wasn't working for me. There is a hotkey ('B') for that but nothing appeared for me and I don't know if something was wonky on my end. Would be nice to be able to easily communicate with other peeps during the event.

[-] grant@toast.ooo 3 points 11 months ago

Like xuv said, it was a matter of moderation and how Matrix is much better setup for moderation. I failed to remove the mentions to the chat though, which did confuse people, sorry about that.

for next years I would like to better connect the on-site chat with Matrix to make chatting a lot easier (and bridging a Discord server to the Matrix space)

[-] Autian@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

for next years I would like to better connect the on-site chat with Matrix

That would be great!

[-] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

This would be ideal.

It doesn’t really help to enable factions if they don’t have a mechanism to chat internally. More there’s a need to be able to reach out to ask unknown someone what they’re up to without escalating.

Given that it’s not always easy to search up and private message someone new on another instance, and some don’t want to use Lemmy’s insecure messaging, a direct link to a secure chat would be a huge help.

xuv and others working on the StarTrek space were able to connect and collaborate using a thread I set up on the StarTrek dedicated instance. I saw that working for c/Canada on Lemmy.ca and emulated. That doesn’t work for all however. (And as it wasn’t stickied in the main StarTrek community, not everyone saw it in a timely way.)

[-] xuv@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

There were a couple questions about that here where the admin said they disabled it because they expected people to chat on Matrix instead. I imagine that's easier to moderate etc but it would've definitely been more user friendly to have the built in one.

[-] GaiusGornicusCaesar@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Maybe have a short cooldown replacing others' pixels when you have stacked them? Or removing the 30 second longer cooldown for replacing your own?

Edit: Two more suggestions: Ability to place Virgin pixels for your own work if you made a mistake and the undo button has faded/you have already placed another pixel and an Undo key (like "O" or something) to undo after the bar fades.

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 2 points 11 months ago

Being able to schedule your next 5 or 10 pixels so that they place automatically. 1 minute is so short I had to dedicate my entire time to the canvas for 2 days straight

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah I had canvas running on my watch so I could do other things like working out and texting while I played. Unfortunately the experience on a watch was awful because zooming on a 1.5 inch circular screen was really hard. Sometimes the canvas would desync and so I'd have to reload the screen and rezoom all over again.

[-] wetnoodle@toast.ooo 2 points 11 months ago

I think doing it more often than reddit would be cool, not super frequent, maybe twice a year. For now the gui is amazing, and i loved this iteration of canvas!

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe some other game at a different time of year. Perhaps some arcade games or something.

Then again, this thread is old

[-] grant@toast.ooo 1 points 3 weeks ago

i should probably create a new thread, but i was thinking about doing that (the other games idea)

if you have ideas for any you can dm them to me via matrix or discord (grahhnt)

[-] Robaque@feddit.it 1 points 11 months ago

I wonder if making the colours partially transparent could work as an interesting / fun twist?

[-] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

what about a canvas that is online for way longer, like a couple of weeks, BUT it is read only except during peak user times, and/or the weekend.

give more time for attention and hype to build up, while still restricting the time people have to place pixels. it would also give people who want to place as many pixels as possible and make bigger projects have time to go outside and touch grass, as well as use the 6/6 pixel stacking.

[-] Sarsaparilla@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago

My son came up with a great idea where we could add a short pop-up note to a pixel or coordinate, perhaps with a viewing expiry time or until the pixel is changed, which would allow for direct communication with other people on the canvas. You could activate the note with a right click of the mouse, for example.

[-] lemonadebunny@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Different background colour so the final result doesn't look as empty

[-] Today@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Open a second phase with a black background.

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, I was thinking the same. You could even do a "flags blank" where it starts with flag-sized rectangles of various random colors.

[-] ArieTheFloof@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Depending on whats possible, we could do something similar to R/place and every so often expand the canvas start off with something small eg.512x512 and add another 512 px. along side

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