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I don't generally agree with calls for candidates to resign, but I'm willing to make an exception in this case:

Conservative candidate Joe Tay was born in Hong Kong but immigrated to Canada. In December, Hong Kong police announced a bounty of HK$1-million – about $184,000 – for information leading to his arrest for allegedly violating a national-security law imposed on the former British colony by China. Mr. Tay runs a YouTube channel, HongKongerStation, that draws attention to continuing civil rights violations in Hong Kong.

In January, Paul Chiang, the Liberal candidate for Markham-Unionville, reportedly told a Chinese-language media conference that people should take Mr. Tay to the People’s Republic of China consulate in Toronto and collect the reward.

“If anyone here can take him to the Chinese Consulate General in Toronto, you can get the million-dollar reward,” Mr. Chiang said, according to Ming Pao, a Chinese-language newspaper.

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In December last year, Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly publicly condemned the Hong Kong bounties on people including Mr. Tay. “Hong Kong authorities are targeting these people for actions that amount to nothing more than the exercise of freedom of speech by standing up for democracy and human rights,” she said at the time.

Marcus Kolga, senior fellow at the Raoul Wallenberg Centre for Human Rights, who also lives in Mr. Chiang’s riding, said if the Liberals fail to remove Mr. Chiang as candidate, they risk becoming complicit in Beijing’s efforts to “intimidate and silence Canadians when it is politically convenient to do so.”

Mr. Kolga said Mr. Chiang as a former police officer and public official has a moral and professional obligation to protect Canadians from transnational repression. “His comments send a chilling message to members of the Hong Kong, Tibetan and Uyghur communities who advocate for human rights, freedom and democracy – many of whom remain extremely vulnerable to PRC repression.”

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/federal-election/article-conservatives-demand-carney-fire-candidate-who-said-tory-should-be/

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[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Conservatives are not doing this to stand up on principle against China or stand with Chinese Canadians. They are doing this to help them win a seat, and to embarrass Carney to help win them seats elsewhere. Period.

This candidate should resign or be involuntarily replaced. This should not be considered a partisan issues, because while I am supporting the liberals in this election these types of vile “jokes” are unacceptable.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Conservatives are not doing this to stand up on principle against China or stand with Chinese Canadians. They are doing this to help them win a seat, and to embarrass Carney to help win them seats elsewhere.

I don't think anyone is suggesting otherwise. Our politicians use crap like this to score points. This is one of those occasions where they seem to be right, however.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

For sure but I want to be explicit they are only right by coincidence.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I strongly disagree.

If conservatives really believed in freedom of speech they should go tell their members in that riding to vote for that liberal candidate to stop cancelling people because of jokes.

I remember when I was in uni during the whole GamerGate/"feminazi" craze, the student branch of the Conservative Party had as their biggest slogan "Freedom of Speech" and "Defend Comedy". When other people need defending, they don't care. But if their feefees get hurt, we should defend them? No. Freedom of Speech only matters with speech and jokes you don't like. And conservatives should not be the arbiters of Freedom. I hope that particular Liberal candidate wins.

As for sovereignty, I agree with you. Personally, since it was a joke (against someone who believes in freedom for me and not for thee), I don't care about this incident.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

As I said, I don’t believe cons are saying this from a place of good intentions. So I agree with that. Yes, the complaints are hypocritical.

But I also don’t think it’s at all funny to joke about how the Chinese government puts a bounty on our people. In our own country! This is a real thing that is happening to real people.

That said, I’m wiling to hear out the full context on it. I can’t imagine a context that would make it okay, but there are lots of things I can’t imagine. But as it stands with the context I’m aware of it’s completely unacceptable.

So it’s not about agreeing with the conservatives or not. I don’t. I’m literally going door-knocking in a few hours to help get the vote out to ensure they do not win. A friend of mine who is rather old is volunteering in Carleton trying to unseat PP and I donated heavily to that riding in order to support them.

But also, I do not accept that we should allow our candidates from any party to make light of the abuses that the Chinese government is heaping on Canadians. Even candidates from a party I explicitly am supporting .

[–] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 27 points 2 days ago

Leave it to a former cop to immediately vomit fascist rhetoric to try to gain power and credibility.

[–] WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago

Ya I'm hella voting liberal this election (voted con in previous elections), but that dude should absolutely be fired or resign. If he isn't punished hard for this liberals are going to make themselves look like comic book villains. It's too bad the cpc under PP went full populist regard maple maga mode, because they are still somehow worse then Libs advocating to turn in bounties to the Chinese govt. When the fuck am I going to wake up? I am so sick of this nightmare world.

[–] LodeMike 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Can someone parse that headline because I cannot make any grammatical sense of it.

Edit: oh Carney is a noun and "fire" is a verb". "Carney fire" is not a noun clause.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

A carney fire would be tragic. They live hard lives, and deserve an easier end.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

I demand pp get a security clearance.

[–] Binzy_Boi@feddit.online 4 points 2 days ago

Do we have any Conservative folks here? Not Conservative myself, but if there's like a petition or something I'm more than willing to cross lines in supporting this call since this is just vile.

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I hope he stays on with an apology. People are allowed to make mistakes. Especially on the right, so turnabout is fair play.