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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 48 points 2 days ago (4 children)

hes gotta start a war somewhere. seems like his top priority.

[–] Ersatz86@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We all played Risk. And what’s the rule? Never, no wait, always fight a land war in Asia.

After all, it went so well for the British. And the French. And the Germans. And the USSR. And the US…

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 2 days ago

Why not? It's far from home, and keeps the military industry running. It's a win-win for Donnie. Or he just says whatever surfaces in his mind.

[–] Hellahunter@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Great another 20 plus year war

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago

That only old and/or rich people get to decide on.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

We need some real hero American boots on the ground!

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Watch how fast the Republican controlled Congress declares war. They’ve been fantasizing about a war with Iran for decades.

[–] LodeMike 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

~~Doesn't it require ⅔rds of the house?~~

[–] Ersatz86@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Executive orders’ been doing some heavy lifting of late.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tell that to Libya, Somalia, etc...

[–] LodeMike 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They said declare war. That is a specific action regulated by the Constitution.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

They will come up with a loophole exploit that frames Iran as the aggressor. That's what Bush did.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure you can just yell it out, like bankruptcy

[–] LodeMike 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Wouldn't do much.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I thought it was simple majority, but you may be right about it requiring a supermajority. I’m having trouble finding it on congress.gov.

[–] LodeMike 4 points 2 days ago

Huh yeah it's a majority, being in article 1 section 8

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 2 days ago

From the same guy who accused Volodymir Zelensky of playing with World War 3.

It takes one to know one I guess...

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I hope all you MAGA motherfuckers with serving family members are cool with incinerating your loved one to placate a game show host’s bruised ego.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I am not American, so I could not vote, but I predicted the 2024 result based solely on the shenanigans of the DNC.

Trump v Sanders in 2016 would have gone the other way. Trump v Biden would have been closer, at least.

In both cases the Democratic establishment crowbarred a wildly unpopular candidate into the race, and in both cases Trump benefited from that to gain power.

Sure, MAGA voters supported him, but when you look at how those elections shook out, many Democrat voters sat out and many swing voters went away from Hilary/Kamala.

So yes, the MAGA voters are responsible for Trump, but so is the desire of the Democrat establishment to prop up candidates that would fully embrace their agenda.

It sure sucks, I'll grant you that

[–] GG@kbin.earth 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

this ^ also my observation as an outsider. IDK how Bernie wasn't elected as DEM presidential candidate. TBH I also don't know how the REP allowed DT to become their candidate after the four years of absolute chaos the first time around. But man I am sure if DEMs hadn't picked Harris, we'd all be in a wayyyy better place currently.

[–] balssh@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because US seem to HATE anything remotely left of (far) right. This is probably due to decades of red scares.

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

US Democrats, as represented by the modern party leadership have only one ideological goal, that is to preserve and promote neoliberal capitalism. They will adopt or throw away any policy stance including socially progressive policy positions, based on their interpretation of how that position aids their core goal. That is why, for example, they will effortlessly swing from a pro-immigration positions to deporting more immigrants and asylum seekers than the Republicans. Socialism in any form, however mild, is antithetical to neoliberal capitalism. That is why the leadership, as currently structured , will never ever permit an ideological socialist like Sanders to gain power. If you observe the Democratic Party leadership playing footsie with socialist-adjacent policies, like social security, it’s merely a tactical maneuver to mange its constituents toward their neoliberal capitalist goals. Never fool yourself into believing that the Democratic Party leadership have any actual ideological affinity for even mildly socialistic programs. They will effortlessly swing on that too if they feel they need to.

I literally believe that we are less than a decade from the Democrats explicitly embracing fascism. You will eventually see Democratic Party representatives doing Nazi salutes at their convention, just like the current Republicans, unless there is a major course correction in that party.

[–] BigPizza@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago

The DNC in general is what happens if you made a party that focuses only on messaging because doing actual things misses the point. They are utterly convinced that the way to victory is running right down the middle because the centrist position is where you have to make the least meaningful changes (or at least delver on them). Harris and Walz had a window but it disappeared once they committed to the "do nothing message." It's the same message Biden ran on with "nothing will fundamentally change."

The recent overtures of Dems like Newsom are a furtherance of this rhetoric and belief, and his shift to the right is to where they now see the middle. Dems aren't a party. They're a fundraising apparatus. And that's why the majority have no meaningful opposition to contribute. The funds raise themselves with a shell of a candidate running for president or a fascist in that same office, which is why they seem so unconcerned.

It's to their own peril and the peril of us all, but there isn't going to be a change to these peoples hearts. They are only there to serve themselves and be the alternate choice. They were never driven by fundamentally held ideals or values. People are confused why so few Dem politicians have risen to the moment but they have. You're looking at what the Dem opposition looks like and what these people are truly capable of. It's the highest form of their art.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

They're probably cool with it. These people join the military and vote for fascism because they believe in it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We had a deal. Shit-for-brains threw it out the last time he was president

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

“I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.”

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago

Wait wait wait. So sign the deal after he broke last one?

It's like he is currently breaking the USMCA deal after signing it and calling it the best deal ever.

What he is showing by breaking the "NATO deal" is that US can't be trusted and everyone should develop their own nukes of they don't want to be invaded.

He made world so much less safer in just 40 days.

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So there was a deal with Iran which Trump ripped up, and now he's threatening Iran with war if they don't make a deal with him like the one he ripped up?

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That's not unusual. Trump was the one that signed USMCA with Canada and Mexico during his last presidency, and now tore that up saying it was unfair while questioning the moron who signed it.

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago

This pattern of behaviour is why no country will consider any agreement with the USA to be trustworthy ever again.

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 days ago

The irony of Europe being pathetic parasites who need to be bailed out in defense but ~~Israel~~ the middle east nah fam total legit.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

A demonstration of the "soft power" that Vance was telling Ukraine to use.

[–] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank god I'm above the draft requirement age.

[–] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As we saw in russia and ukraine, that doesn't really matter to these people. They'll slap an old stock gun on you and shove you out a van with their guns pointed at you, and just beat you if you complain or try to not be drafted.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Russia is only sending volunteers and foreigners to Ukraine. The draftees stay in the borders because if they sent 18 year olds from Moscow to the front the government would possibly have a regime change.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Saying the quiet part out loud... Although I'm sure there will be bombings either way.