just give us a headphone jack and removable storage and you'll have a customer for life.
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I wouldn't mind easily swappable batteries
Check out the Fairphone 5
Good specs for the price. No headphone jack tho.
True, but replaceable everything. And as sustainable (environmentally and socially) as smartphones come.
Xperia 1 VI?
Government should make standards for banks to support different operating systems. Not particularly well known OS.
Cool, does it run on a Galaxy Xcover6 Pro with a Verizon plan? I bet it doesn't, nothing does besides the big-2 OS's it seems.
I can't wait for Linux phones to be stable enough for a daily driver.
Likewise, brother. But at the current rate, we are still a few years away. :-(
that has been said since before the nokia n600. lol
And we'll keep saying it until we get there.
The FuriPhone, which runs the FuriOS Linux distribution (based on Debian), has a polished enough user experience that it can be used as a daily driver by many people.
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It seems like Linux-compatible android handsets stopped around 2021. Except a few bespoke models that are hard to get your hands on outside of Europe.
I have a OnePlus Nord N10 flashed with Ubuntu Touch as a tinker device, unfortunately in the US it's not daily-able because we shut down 3g and 2g networks and they still haven't managed to get VoLTE working on Ubuntu Touch yet (though it may be coming in the next year!) so phone calls don't work.
There's also the Pixel 3a/3a XL which are plentiful and cheap but I like the N10 a bit more because of the additional RAM. Makes it feel a little less old compared to the Pixel.
If you can get your hands on a Fairphone, Pinephone or Volla those are great but hard to get outside the EU.
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Good luck, phone hardware changes very fast though.
I'm okay with an older phone, I just want basic features to work consistently and well. Maybe support a newer phone every 5 years or so to provide an upgrade path.
Basically, I'm okay with the GrapheneOS strategy of sticking to one product line.
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give me ANYTHING that's open-source and not tied to google or apple. i don't care if it's shit. i'm old. i just need a phone and maybe some pics and browsing.
GrapheneOS is an open-source Android fork lots of people like, it's what I'm planning on using once I get a new phone
While I'm a fan of GrapheneOS, I think it could still be considered "tied to Google" both due to it being based on Android, and also because it only runs on Google Pixel phones. Graphene focuses more on security, then on privacy, but not so much on reducing our dependency on Google's software and/or hardware.
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Phone functionality is the least of my problems, I need an open source replacement for Android Auto / Apple CarPlay.
Not sure how that would work, you'd either have to emulate it to talk to the infotainment system, or get all the infotainment producers to add an open source layer... Sounds like a nightmare either way.
We had the AUX jack but they axed it to sell earbuds.
I have heard that Apple removed the headphone jack to kill compatibility with those Square credit card readers.
And yet here I am supporting people who use square credit card readers with Ipads as one of my job responsibilities..... They just switched to bluetooth
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Eventually I'll try one. I feel like it can be like desktop Linux where it take a very many many long years until it starts to chip away at single digit values of market share
It's worse. Linux desktop is only possible because of the relative consistency and openness of x86 PC hardware. Phones are nothing like that. At best we will have retro Linux handhelds with phone functionality.
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I am sorely tempted, but its unlikely my banking apps and very specific work 2fa app is anything but Apple and Android compatible. I am almost at the stage of getting a second phone for day to day, and keeping my old for specific apps
You should consider changing bank if they don't provide a regular website with at least the same functions as their app.
Most banks these days need their app as well to log in to their website because of forced two factor authentication
Ah yes, so easy. Just change banks bro.
Sometimes I wonder if there are any acual adults using Linux. Lol
Actually, what is hard about changing banks? I give my bank info to as few entities as possible. And almost all of them would take a few clicks and possibly a few days to verify some tiny transaction and I would be done. Changing credit cards is far harder. But also. Why are you using the banks app on your phone. That phone is probably the least secure electronic you own. The attack surface on that thing is absolutely huge.
Have you considered that maybe not everyone is like you?
We are all unique, just like everyone else.
But it was a serious question actually. Probably doesn't read that way though. I'm on the older side, so I might not know about what the kids are doing with thier bank accounts these days.
The new bank will happily organise anything for you, and if not, it is not the right bank, because they clearly don’t want you as customer, like this.
Customer support generally gets worse as you are longer at the same bank because you are more and more less likely to switch your bank staying at a bank. They invest in the customers they see risks of loosing or see a change of winning the most.
It could be up to hours of mild inconvenience!
Be nice if Linux phones could be like how Samsung phones used to be before they started removing features to directly compete with Apple smartwatch markets. I don't understand how competition=downgrades because they wanna stretch features out to sell more products than how it used to be when both companies were all about being the One Phone That Does it All. I can afford the one gadget, always have and always will, but especially now when everything is so expensive I can only ever afford the Samsung A-Series not their main marketed S line.
But, do you ever need anything more than a A series phone? Or just want?
Can i play minecraft on it though? Ive got a horse ranch that I'd really like to continue
Java is inherently cross platform, and works well on linux. So assuming the phone is powerful enough, you should be good to go even if it's linux.
Definitely worth checking out Minetest/Luanti though, it has promise.
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