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Millennials don't believe protesting works.

I've seen a lot of discussion about why millennials aren't coming out. Yes, they work and have young children. They are taking care of their elderly parents. All of these things are true and valid.

But also millennials have gone to the Occupy Wall Street protests, which accomplished nothing. The BLM protests, which accomplished nothing. The Women's March, which lol. I protested during all of these things only for our country to slide even further into capitalistic greed and corruption. When Bernie was running, someone we could get excited about, he was undermined by his own party.

Many millennials don't even believe their vote matters anymore in the face of gerrymandering and the electoral college.

I still want to believe protesting can effect change. Or frankly that American citizens have any power at all anymore. I'll be protesting on the 5th, but man is it hard to keep hope alive when our generation has been crushed under the establishment for our entire lives. Combine that with how oppressive the 40+ hour work week is and can you blame people for not protesting? Millennials barely even have the energy to do their laundry.

I'm not sure how to energize people. I'm not even sure how to energize myself. The Democratic party offers no leadership or hope whatsoever.

Please offer your local millennial (and me!) some hope. Please tell me we aren't just screaming into a void.


Originally Posted By u/duckhunt420 At 2025-03-31 11:47:11 AM | Source


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[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Rugged individualism killed the Millennial activist. While social and political issues were impressed upon this generation from childhood, when the cards are down it's everyone for themselves. Individualism was the other value they we're raised with.

It's why in spite of holding enough electorate power they do not assert it. It's why millennials don't run for office or if they do they have zero solidarity among their own cohort.

I think a key difference lies in the way Baby Boomers were born in huge families with many siblings and first cousins. The parents cranked out half a dozen kids. They had to raise each other. They grew up in a period of collectivism.

Millennials were born to an age of the nuclear family in the era of mass production. It was a time of over abundance. It was Fukuyamas "end of history". The parents had one or two kids. They were treated like little princes and princesses destined to inherit humanity's final social and political form that is liberal democracy. That is faltering and Millennials have no idea what to do about it.

edit: I also want to add that a lot of millennials are comfortable enough to not have to care. This has been very unpopular to point out on reddit. While the middle class has been disappearing that doesn't mean everyone got pushed to the lower class. A lot of millennials made it to the upper half. There's no reason for them to be protesting.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 28 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

To my fellow millennials...

The protests are working. Even the weekend protests at tesla showrooms. Elon is freaking the fuck out, claiming that even talking (or pointing fingers) at cybertrucks is a crime. Why? Because the stock is toppling, and that stock is the foundation of his wealth. A lot of his other schemes depend on that stock being strong.

The protests against Republicans in Congress are working. Trump is pulling nominees for his administration because they are getting absolutely wrecked and those seats are flipping. These spineless fucks won't even show up to their own districts, let alone their own state because of the bad optics and disapproval from their constituents.

The rough part is, we have to keep this going for another few years. At least 2 IMHO. We need to flip Congress, impeach Trump and hold him and his lackeys accountable for their crimes. It's the only way we can move forward as a country. The alternative is literally violence in the streets as trump's SS (aka, ICE) continues to crackdown on legal and protected dissent.

[–] kiwii4k@lemmy.zip 6 points 16 hours ago

i would argue that the only thing that is really affecting tesla is boycotting, not the protesting.

the only thing these people understand is their cash flow. stop it there and the tick will die. elon is freaking the fuck out because his business might be failing. not because people are causing property damage. that only emboldens him to dig his feet in.

i still believe in the power of making your opinion known, but it's not as useful as it once was. at least when done peacefully.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 7 points 18 hours ago

Yeah tesla protests deff soured Tesla tubby attitude seeing him cry on fake news is pricesless

Seeing that stock wiped even better

Fuck that parasite

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 22 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The great resignation wasn’t about work at all.

We simply don’t believe in the future anymore, because it was taken from us by greedy assholes who were born 20 years before us. After your entire youth and early adulthood filled with struggle only to get your bosses boss a new ferrari you just don’t care anymore.

Now we’re all doomers hoping for this unjust bullshit to collapse and burn even if it takes us with it. After all how much can you loose if they already took it all?

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I feel this whole thread in my 40yo bones. While we're all pretty fucking miserable, it's reassuring to know the way I'm feeling right now is not just my mental illness getting worse. It's also that, but still reassuring that it might not only be because of that.

My wife and I welcomed our first born into the world in late December of 2019, right before COVID really started to ramp up worldwide and lock the whole world in fear. For years now I wondered if I was a bad father because, despite my son and wife being my world, I've been in the grip of passive suicidality for a while now. I don't take care of myself and my health anymore, I don't try to better myself or my immediate surroundings, I don't fix broken things so much as just working around the problems, and where I used to be passionate about my work, now I basically do the bare minimum to keep my job. I'm just over this rat race.

Nothing we were told was true about the world, and our place in it.

Anymore, everything feels like an immense struggle. Life feels like a second or third job. I don't know how I'm going to survive the next several years. Thanks to MAGA and apathetic voters, we now get to relive the world of our parents and grandparents, fearing world war at the hands of fascists, -- and introducing nuclear annihilation this time around, -- rather than some sort of utopia brought on by technological advancement that seemed so promising in our earlier years.

I want to be here for my son and wife, but like the late, great Michael Clarke Duncan in Green Mile said, "I'm tied, boss."

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago

I don't take care of myself and my health anymore, I don't try to better myself or my immediate surroundings, I don't fix broken things so much as just working around the problems, and where I used to be passionate about my work, now I basically do the bare minimum to keep my job. I'm just over this rat race.

Fuck your job but not your life dude. One thing is worthless and the other is everything.

I do bare minimum at work to not get fired and get whatever scraps they are willing to feed me. Then I take those and try my hardest to turn those scraps into whatever happiness I can. There is no satisfaction in our jobs anymore but it doesn’t mean that doing something for yourself or someone you care about can’t be satisfying. Even if it’s all worthless in the end somebody’s „thank you”, or even your own pride for the smallest of things that you mend are more valuable then all the money they could ever print.

I try to think that we are still the lucky ones, it’s all going to turn to real shit in a while but right now nobody is shooting at us yet, so let’s make some memories for that evening in the trench, we sure as fuck aren’t going to talk about our jobs.

I know it can be hard to look past the fog of depression sometimes, especially if the society tells you your only purpose is your work. But that’s simply not true. Your only purpose is to be happy with yourself. Im rooting for you bro. See you in the trench!

[–] yarr@feddit.nl 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Millennials don’t believe protesting works.

For any given protest, what does the person attending believe it will do?

Astonishingly few protests in the modern world have led to immediate change regarding the issue they were held against, therefore anyone attending a protest with this in mind therefore will have violated expectations.

I have attended protests before and I see their goal as raising awareness of issues and giving a physical display of how many people are against a given subject. In this sense, as soon as a protest is seen it meets the goal.

So I ask again, if you say "protesting doesn't work", my question is, "How do you define work?"

[–] RainbowHedgehog@50501.chat 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Protesting is hard work that takes a long time. The young are passionate but can be impatient. Millennials in the US today have generally only lived to see an overall downward trajectory. I understand how it can be difficult for them to see a light at the end of the tunnel.

We are in America’s Dark Night of the Soul. The period of darkness before you get yourself back together and transform into something greater.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 19 hours ago

When Bernie was running,

This is the perfection

even believe their vote matters

..that stole joy from 'better'.

Given a binary choice, one which didn't include Bernie, I hope you still made a choice instead of abdicating it.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 91 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Luigi got more done in a minute than all the thousands of protesters over the past 30 years.

[–] TheHalifaxJones@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This. And. I think protesting would be seriously more effective if it occurred in front of houses of the people who are actively the cause of the issue. Rather than going to the streets where these billionaires can just turn off the news. But if we can actively protest where these people are living. Then I think real change would occur.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Absolutely! Generic protesting does nothing. Abortion protesters didn't march in random cities. They protested outside abortion clinics to prevent them from being accessible and directly harassed doctors.

[–] BeefPiano@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

That’s called “direct action”

[–] Rokin@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago

...allegedly

[–] aquablack@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Although that's (possibly, partly) true, he (allegedly) was also very selective in his use of violence. If he had mixed up his target and shot some accountant who happened to look a lot like the CEO, he wpuld not have received mass support. If he had firebombed the hotel, he would not have received mass support.

Though I agree that he brought the issue of healthcare to the forefront, so far he has done exactly as much as the protests have done to improve healthcare (e.g., minor improvements - the anesthesia blue cross thing.)

It is not yet sufficient.

[–] RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works 4 points 23 hours ago

And this is why.

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

I believe you're right.

[–] Apple87sagan@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep, pretty much sums up how I feel as an older millenial. The fact that Donald Trump has now won twice....I am just waiting on Merica to learn the hard way. I will be protesting as well. Its still better than nothing.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 22 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Sales across various markets are down even more than corporate expectations. Consumers are either poor or scared. A recession is almost certainly coming, and coupled with the government fuckery, it's going to hit rural America the hardest in the short and long term.

When things hit Americans in their wallets, maybe Trump voters' two remaining braincells will finally grasp the barest hint that they've been conned by billionaires—again.

[–] thegr8goldfish@startrek.website 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their propaganda machine will just say 'How Could the Democrats Let This Happen?' and their idiots will eat it up with a spoon.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah I hear ya on all counts.

[–] taipan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Protests are effective at establishing support for progressive reforms and at restraining governments from taking unpopular actions, even if the protesters don't achieve all their goals as quickly as they would like.

See: Why protest if it doesn't make a difference?

Protests do work

This is surprising, given that we constantly see examples where protest has made a difference. We have, already in 2024, seen blockades and protests by French farmers prompt the government to offer concessions. Likewise, in India, the renewed farmers movement marching towards Delhi has already prompted an offer from the government of improved prices for crops.

Mass street protests over a child sex abuse scandal in Budapest recently led Hungary’s prime minister, Viktor Orbán, to introduce legislation to address the scandal. Late last year, mass protests and street blockades in Panama led to the government closing one of the world’s largest copper mines.

Academic research also shows that protest can be influential. Workers’ protest and strike action was crucial in prompting Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal as part of the creation of the US welfare state. And disruptive protests have also slowed down the adoption of the austerity measures which have eroded welfare states across the high-income democracies for the past 40 years.

Colonialism was met with ongoing resistance and protest in almost every instance, including Gandhi’s campaign of non-violent civil disobedience, as well as more militant campaigns. This grew throughout the 20th century, until maintaining occupation ultimately proved unmanageable for the colonial powers.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think there is hope. The movements you mentioned are all recent or were very short lived. Fourteen years elapsed between brown vs. board of education and the civil rights act of 1968. women’s suffrage in the us was a battle that raged from the declaration of independence to 1920, nearly 150 years. i think that we are seeing the first reversal of BLM progress. the me too movement definitely caused some change, but the fuckers are naturally fighting back. there will be more protests and more reversals before real change sticks. the arc of history bends slowly, but it bends. every time you protest, you help keep hope alive.

[–] RainbowHedgehog@50501.chat 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Occupy Wall Street inspired the movement towards a $15/hr minimum wage and educated people about income inequality. So it didn’t do anything flashy, but it wasn’t useless.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

i also think the antiwork movement is a product of occupy wall street, and that is percolating through the public consciousness as well!

[–] RainbowHedgehog@50501.chat 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why does everyone not see anything in the Women’s March? It was a massively effective recruiting drive. Indivisible got a lot of members from the Women’s March. Indivisible has been extremely effective against Trump during his first term. They’ve been organizing for ten years.

This is why the majority of people buying and donating bus tickets for the April 5th protest are all women.

I think because the news doesn't report on positive results, I suspect intentionally as those results are typically not positive for their owners.

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Indivisible has been extremely effective against Trump during his first term.

I'm not trying to be rude, but I've never heard of Indivisible. What have they done and how were they effective during Trump's first term?

[–] RainbowHedgehog@50501.chat 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Indivisible is the main organizer of the April 5th protests this weekend. In Trump 1.0 they were a big factor in protecting things like the ACA. They also work towards building progressive politics in Red and Purple states. They also work to prevent voter suppression and gerrymandering.

This isn’t even the list of their best accomplishments, but this is from their website: https://indivisible.org/impact

Their whole point is to use political pressure on politicians weak points to make them more likely to cave to their demands. They were a big factor in getting the Democrats to do the filibuster early on in Trump’s second term. They often focus on local politics. It’s a bottom-up strategy. This is also why they keep organizing those town halls.

[–] commander@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Peaceful protests stopped really accomplishing anything once the ones being protested learned that there's no long term consequence to just ignoring peaceful protests. Not only that protests in the past were far more strategic. You'd use Rosa Parks because she's got the marketable image when the cameras are out. You had sit-ins. You had well organized boycotts. You had people willing to sit in a county jail for being disruptive.

I went to a protest last month. What I heard reminded me of college. Spent like 40 minutes listening to the DJ talk about how music and activism have always gone hand in hand and how later in the day please stick around to listen to music of liberation. Art is commentary. It is rarely the driver of action. Listening to music isn't going to plan out a boycott and organize weekly/monthly meetings to plan out and continue motivating boycotts.

College campus students like to do silent protests on campus to people that agree with them and/or do symbolic stuff like lay on the ground and draw chalk marks around them or place duct tape on their mouths. Zero stakes, zero risk on a college campus, zero weight to these attempted symbols and of course the lack of organizing regular meetings to further operate. Protests have to evolve into professional/pseudo-professional organizations

And all the peaceful marches from MLK Jr. Elsewhere there was still Malcolm X, Black Panthers, Communist Party, Fred Hampton and his collection of people putting aside their racism and sexismm for shared labor/economic interests, and of course then there was MLK Jr being assassinated and a week of countrywide riots that sped the Civil Rights Act of 1968 through congress and the white house

The Tesla protests are good though. It needs to keep being hammered for years to come that Tesla cars are garbage and support garbage and portray an image of garbage. Continued exodus from X to BlueSky or Mastadon is good. Reddit to Lemmy is good. All things that hit rich people if enough people do make the move. If only there were good movements to get off Facebook and Instagram. Stuff like not buying Kentucky whisky/bourbon is good. Buy Canadian or overseas whiskey. Until American brands take a stand, buy foreign and make it known why you buy foreign

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[–] Exeous@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (8 children)

France protest good. Do like France do! Hope always.

[–] enub22@50501.chat 1 points 17 hours ago

https://50501.chat/post/78563 Made a post asking about how France protests.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I am boycotting instead. Also, not American.

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[–] RainbowHedgehog@50501.chat 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m a millenial/Gen Z. I was really surprised to find out that I was one of the youngest in my protest group. A lot of people told me they were protesting for their grandkids. They also expressed regret that my generation would have to deal with the fallout of this.

Also, do we know that millennials are protesting less than other generations? My protests seem to be pretty age-diverse. They seem to match up with the generation percentages of the population at large. People might just be used to seeing mainly young people at protests.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago

Anecdotally for me, millennials are less present in the protests I see or attend. I think it's less a lack of caring or believing in a cause, more, social media. People vent online which gives a kind of catharsis. I'm not talking about likes for prayers or that nonsense. I mean the lack of a third space has implications outside of our mental health.

Protests can be organized more easily online but they can also lose their real world effect and become diluted as just another online event without meaning. People need to be together for real protest. It's like the difference between watching a concert online and being there. I think the online part, outside of organization dilutes the protest movements.

The BLM, occupy and women's March protests all had an effect on the psyche of the world and although didn't change the world how they wanted to, were still impactful. There is a famous study that says when 6% of people (I think) start protesting, change is inevitable. So rather than feeling downtrodden by lack of change, we need to keep pushing for it. Simple actions have an effect. If fox news is on in your doctor's office, ask to have it changed.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Protesting only works if it’s violent, or threatening violence. If the powers that be aren’t scared they will not care.

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[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My thing is I literally don't have the time. I'm primary income for my household, my kids eat up whatever sick time I have, and these protests, as far as I've seen, are never on the weekends. There's the 'economic blackout' ones I participated in, but it's not like those are making an impact to these companies that have hordes of resources to keep them afloat. Idk man. I don't want to be the reason our democracy fails, but I don't want to be one of the idiots just sitting around on their ass either.

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are large, organized protests all over this Saturday! It's never too late to start going. I'll be going for the first time ever on the 5th.

https://www.fiftyfifty.one/

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