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[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 39 points 6 days ago

I never gave it a single thought. But now I have been cursed with this knowledge and will fly into a fury every time I hear it now.

But thanks anyway.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 238 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Props to the movies that shout the "Loose!" command

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 85 points 1 week ago (8 children)

As I understand it, that's still not very historically accurate. It was not really a thing for archers to nock and loose together like they do in the movies.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 125 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Never really made sense to me, loose all the arrows at once and then give a break between volleys? Gives everyone a chance to hide behind their shield, and then advance when it's clear. Unless volleys are perfectly timed between multiple rows of archers.

Random arrows flying constantly never gives the enemy a chance to feel safe since it's a constant barrage, and there's no wasted time for the archers needing to wait for the command to fire.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 100 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Archers were strategic weapons, not the main crux of killilng. They were used to do things like keeping an enemy division pinned down so that your cavalry can move around them or one of your own divisions can reach a more advantageous position. A well placed concentrated barrage could force an enemy to move in a direction that is more advantageous to you, etc...

They weren't the primary means of killing people. They were the means of steering the battle where the general wanted it to go.

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 43 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That's why I use a staff and just unleash a huge lightning strike to destroy my enemies

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 134 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Or that they're holding the bow drawn for a long period of time, waiting for the order to "fire".

Long bows averaged a 200lb draw weight. Try holding that for 5 minutes.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 146 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 149 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Literally - you can pick out English longbowman bodies from the shape of their skeletons

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now I'm imagining a swole skeleton with buff bones

[–] manucode@infosec.pub 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's mostly their twisted spine, as far as I'm aware.

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[–] MBech@feddit.dk 68 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I never blamed the archer on the walls of Helms Deep. Waiting for the enemy to get all the way up to your walls was dumb enough, but waiting while having drawn your bow for what must've felt like ages for a human archer, is fucking rediculous. Terrible leadership.

You don't want your archers to be excausted before the battle even starts, just so you can look really unbothered on top of your wall.

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[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 130 points 1 week ago (22 children)
[–] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They weren't calling your mom

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[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago (6 children)

i usually complain to the wife when horrible tactics are used in medieval battles.

like... why is everyone always doing a full frontal assault, have the wrong weapons, not use fire appropriately, never flank, use cavalry inappropriately.....

miltary tactics in movies is usually abhorrent.

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 93 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I loved the battle of Winterfell, where everyone took up defensive positions OUTSIDE THE CASTLE WALLS.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And then charged in to total darkness

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

Against monsters that turn corpses into monsters

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[–] MasterNerd@lemm.ee 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Given the fact that any language used in such a movie is going to be wildly unlike the language spoken in the time and place of the movie, I think that's a mild anachronism

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[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 51 points 1 week ago (15 children)

If you were commanding a mass of archers "Spaff!" was the correct command.

[–] VitoRobles 4 points 6 days ago

I don't like this.

[–] deet580@lemm.ee 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The best part was when they said "ITS SPAFFFIN' TIME" and spaffed all over those guys.

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[–] Affidavit@lemm.ee 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, this is going to bug me for the rest of my life.

Thanks.

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

for the haters :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volley_fire#Bows

The co-ordination and timing could probably be resolved with musical instruments, which were used to relay orders, messages etc.

EDIT : Also, what did OP expect, for all the characters to speak Old English?

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[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Yeah, or a sequence of "nock, draw, fire/loose/shoot" commands. Warbows cannot be held that long ffs.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Correct term was probably "loose!"

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[–] Euphorazine@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Often times, I think of movies or stories as the story teller as translating for the audience. You don't watch Troy and think it's odd the characters are speaking English.

It's acceptable to complain if the work is nonfiction and meant to be for education.

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