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In this NBC interview Hamas spokesperson said that he likes to see all those protests among western world, and this is a good result of the October 7th attack.

How does that make you feel?

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

The reason I’d protest is so war doesn’t radicalize more people for Hamas to recruit. Fuck Hamas.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Killing civilians is wrong and world leaders should be held accountable. All imma say.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Nothing really

[–] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

eh, I dont listen to terrorists

[–] KepBen@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Hamas is not Palestine.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People are protesting the fact there are dead children, not because they support Hamas.

[–] qnick@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Exactly. Hamas likes those protests so much, they'll make sure there's more dead children.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nothing. What, you think people protest for Hamas?

[–] qnick@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hamas definitely thinks so.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And you want people to simply stop protest against genocide because "Hamas think so"?

[–] qnick@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, if the terrorist leaders ask you to do something for them, and you do exactly what they ask, but "for different reasons", I definitely have some questions.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's akin to saying "condemning Hamas is supporting Israel genocide and oppression of Palestinian". Simply illogical.

[–] qnick@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I already explained in a different thread, that genocide is purposeful elimination of some nation or ethnicity. For something to be genocide you need an ethnicity and a goal to eliminate it.

Palestinian is not an ethnicity, it's just a place where you live, like Californian. And Israel doesn't have a goal to eliminate them. The target is Hamas, a terrorist organization.

On the contrary, the target of Hamas is elimination of all Jews, which is an ethnicity. They don't even hide their goal, you can read their charter.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I already explained in a different thread, that genocide is purposeful elimination of some nation or ethnicity. For something to be genocide you need an ethnicity and a goal to eliminate it.

Genocide:

Definition

Article II

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

  • Killing members of the group;
  • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
  • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
  • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
  • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Ethnic Cleansing:

Definition

As ethnic cleansing has not been recognized as an independent crime under international law, there is no precise definition of this concept or the exact acts to be qualified as ethnic cleansing.

A United Nations Commission of Experts mandated to look into violations of international humanitarian law committed in the territory of the former Yugoslavia defined ethnic cleansing in its interim report S/25274 as "… rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove persons of given groups from the area."

In its final report S/1994/674, the same Commission described ethnic cleansing as “… a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas.”


And Israel doesn't have a goal to eliminate them. The target is Hamas, a terrorist organization.

And Nestle is a good company that bring you good product that changed the world.

On the contrary, the target of Hamas is elimination of all Jews, which is an ethnicity.

b-b-but hamas!

[–] qnick@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You just repeated what I just said, adding "religious" in bold.

There are plenty of Muslims in the Israeli army, and some of them are currently fighting in Gaza for Israel. There's nothing religious about this conflict.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well then i'm pretty sure you know what "nation" mean.

[–] qnick@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The term "nation" along with "nationalism" was invented in England in the 1600s. Before that, people didn't know they belonged to any nation, they identified themselves with religious groups.

And again, Palestinian is not a nation, it's just where you live. If you moved to Gaza, you'd become Palestinian.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 1 points 11 months ago

That's a long way to say you don't know what nation mean lol.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Makes me feel pretty much the same way as everything else that a terrorist says publicly:

Very careful and suspicious.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

That's called having an agenda.