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[-] Cano@lemm.ee 166 points 8 months ago

Hate to be that guy, but it's "Should've" and not "Should of".

Good meme btw

[-] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 61 points 8 months ago

Which is "should have" when spelt out.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Genuine question: is is spelt or spelled, or do both work?

[-] 56_@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

I assumed "spelt" was wrong, but an internet search tells me both are correct.

[-] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

One is "vivacious English", the other "simplified English"

[-] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 months ago

Use speldt to make both sides angry

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago
[-] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Both work, but using spelt is more fun.

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't know. I'm more of a barley sort of guy, myself.

[-] gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Fun fact, related to this: learned and learnt are also both correct. I always assumed learnt was a redneck thing (I'm from the south), but it turns out the Brits use it too. Who knew?

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

So it’s lingually sound but regionally a redneck thing, then?

[-] gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

I've heard it used in a sentence like "When I was a boy, my daddy done learnt me a thing or two about fishin'". Which is why it's associated with southern slang, I think. That's my hypothesis anyway.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Folks in west verginnie use words and phrases carried over from the old days when talkin like brits and Frenchmen was considered fancy, and it’s devolved into hill folk lingo. Yes, it’s technically a dialect but it’s not proper grammar in American English just because some hillfolk and southern drawl says it.

[-] gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Right, I get that it's not grammatically correct in that context, but the word itself is valid. I had always thought "learnt" was akin to "ain't", but that's not the case. Both "learned" and "learnt" are correct, but the latter is less commonly used in the US.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I’m just convinced my inbred ancestors out in the hills think them’s bein fancy sayin’ they learn’t how t’ do the thing frum they’d pa

[-] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Yea crap you're right, I wish I could correct the title

[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 8 months ago

You can edit titles on Lemmy

[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

it has been 6 hrs, should of do it by now

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 15 points 8 months ago

Hate to be that guy, but it's "should of done" and not "should of do".

Good comment btw

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 53 points 8 months ago

You can on lemmy!

[-] idunnololz@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Me too 😔. Well at least you will know for next time.

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[-] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 4 points 8 months ago

I like the post but had to downvote it because the English is atrocious

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 32 points 8 months ago

slavery is too morally bankrupt to ever have a cool maintainer like the cURL dude

[-] Rhaedas@kbin.social 28 points 8 months ago

The only issue with this adaptation of a great comic is that it infers the Confederacy was a well built structure that depended on that one small thing. The Confederacy didn't exist that long, it even didn't have a single flag version for longer than a year or so. Change it to the southern states' economy and it makes more sense.

[-] Genrawir@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Then the slavery would be a much bigger piece though, so this meme really makes no sense at all

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[-] explodicle@local106.com 24 points 8 months ago

Slavery was more like the central block two positions upwards from the tiny block indicated. It was their whole reason for secession.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 8 months ago

And there should be an even bigger block under it called "Native land and resources that they didn't have gunpowder to defend".

[-] Skkorm@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It was a the death of 90% of the population to small pox within one generation that allowed colonization. The Europeans were dirty and diseased, untrained peasants. Their firearms at that time were inaccurate single shot rifles, that took minutes to reload. Analysis of indigenous bow techniques showed the common capability to accurately shoot multiple arrows in rapid succession.

And it goes beyond war: Indigenous people didn't farm as Europeans did, we instead cultivated forests with eidble plant species that complimented each other to kept the soil healthy. The forests across the Americas were thousands of years into a cycle of land management that kept grown food naturally abundant and plentiful, without having to clear the land. Indigenous peoples were expert and managing the population of the animals of their areas as well. We understood which members of an animal population should be hunted, and which should be kept for the health of the species. We then knew how to fully utilize every part of the animals hunted. The core of most indigenous cultures rotated around ethical and efficient management of the land's resources. What did the Europeans do? Accidentally gave an entire continent a super virus, then stripped the forests clear to plant shitty crops not made for this climate, and hunted countless animal species to extinction. Europeans were not technologically advanced at all. They were just diseased. That's it.

Rest assured that without smallpox, the Americas would not have been colonized. Population density and technological differences would have made it too dangerous and expensive an undertaking.

[-] orrk@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

ooof, lots of pent-up frustration here.

Europeans were not any more "dirty" or "clean" than any other group, also Native Americans adopted the use of fire arms from the Europeans and would generally trade foodstuffs for firearms, in the end you are only repeating the Noble Savage

[-] HenryWong327@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

The main advantage of early guns wasn't that they were more powerful, it's that they were easy to use. You can train someone to fire a gun in a day, while it takes months of training just to get an archer strong enough to draw a bow.

Also the whole "the Europeans were dirty diseased peasants" thing isn't accurate, and I have to say that IMO the right response to racist depictions of indigenous people as unwashed savages isn't to just turn around and say "actually the stereotypes are correct it's just that it's about the Europeans this time".

And Indigenous people had more advanced technoglogy than many give them credit for but "The Europeans were technologically behind indigenous people in nearly every way. " is just blatantly wrong.

I do think you're right though that without smallpox and other diseases the Europeans wouldn't have colonised the Americas, though there were several other major factors in it.

P.S. I'm not a historian, grain of salt, etc.

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[-] Zink@pawb.social 9 points 8 months ago

You maybe would think about industrializing too before you split off..

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Stupid northerners and their fancy trains."

"Hey, how TF they getting all these fuckloads of troops out here so fast?"

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

To be fair, they couldn't industrialise before they split off. Their industries wouldn't have been competitive with the well-established ones already existing in the north. Only ways they could become competitive were (a) secede and put up tariffs, or (b) get a huge aid package from the federal government so they can run things at a loss for a few years. And the northern states would not have been happy with (b), so …

[-] Catfish@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 8 months ago

If you think slavery has been abolished you haven't seen prison labor.

[-] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago

To add more: the last chatel slave in the US was freed in 1942. During WWII.

Why? Not because it was the right thing to do, but because the optics of having slaves looked bad and the Japanese Empire (of all institutions) was calling the US out.

People living and running the country to this day fought tooth and nail against the civil rights movement. Slavery is not ancient history, it's part of what's allowed a small portion of the current world population to lead a privileged life.

[-] Catfish@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Wow I had no idea, thank you for sharing this.

[-] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago
[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago

Stolen land with stolen people

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