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[–] TrontheTechie@infosec.pub 12 points 2 years ago (7 children)

This is why I don’t fuck guys who “don’t pay attention to politics”.

That means one thing, and it isn’t that they are blissfully unaware of the day to day happenings in their town, county, state, region, country, or planet of residence.

[–] ophelia@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This is my go-to response whenever anyone wants to start talking politics with me. Mainly because whenever someone wants to talk politics it's usually not because they're liberal and I really hate talking with people who just want to prove that their opinion is the right one.

[–] Plus_a_Grain_of_Salt@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I'll admit I've used it for similar reasons. What I really should be saying is "I'm sorry, but I don't want to talk about this right now." Maybe I'll even be brave and say "I don't want to talk about this with you." but it's rare for me to find a person I don't want to hear at all from. That usually comes up because they've already made their arguments, and I've already accepted or rebuttal the points to my own satisfaction. At that point they'll talk themselves into circles looking for justification for parts of their stance, but unable to articulate it themselves. I'll listen to anyone's views at least once, given I'm in the right mindset, but I still wouldn't date someone I don't morally agree with. Life partners should have higher standards than conversation partners, and aligning values is a bare minimum for relationships.

[–] medgremlin@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It depends on why they don't pay attention to politics. Personally, I kind of have to go ostrich-mode and bury my head in the sand when school gets stressful because I just don't have the mental bandwidth to deal with both. I'm not going to judge someone too harshly for protecting their mental health from the absolute shitshow that is the American political landscape.

PS: This is not to say that any degree of modern conservatism is okay. Bigots can go fuck themselves and I'd be out punching Nazis and being a medic at protests if it didn't jeopardize my future so significantly. (Felony convictions make it really hard to get a medical license and I have to pay off my student loans somehow. Besides, I'll be in a much better position to make a meaningful difference as a physician than as a heavily indebted student or EMT.)

[–] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 1 points 2 years ago

this. you can pay little attention to politics without being a "centrist" who isn't actually a centrist. news can be depressing as fuck, i'm hella glad i strongly limited my consumption of them, but that doesn't mean i'm gonna start both-sidesing shit. (with the exception of tankies vs nazis, because those two are in fact the same authoritarian, anti-west, bigoted crap under different flags that love to larp against each other)

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I bartend. I was working on Easter, and one of our semi regulars came in with a guy that she was obviously on a drink date with. They'd been at at least one other bar before they came in; they'd had a couple drinks, but weren't past maybe tipsy.

At one point, she mentioned that the reason the last place they'd been to was slow was likely that it happened to be Easter. At the mention of the word the guy interrupted with,

"I REFUSE TO TALK ABOUT ANY POLITICS OR RELIGION!!"

To me this was a sign that this dude cared very much about religion and politics, but just like how scientologists don't drop the Xenu shit on you right away, he wanted to wait until any prospective partner was in too deep before revealing how abhorrent his views are.

That regular isn't my favorite person, but I was proud of her for pretty much ending that date after that.

[–] TrontheTechie@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, that’s another one of those.

I’ve never had anyone who said politics and religion aren’t good conversation actually be worth having those conversations with. Everyone else from every other walk of life has no problem having a nuanced conversation about that stuff, it’s only ever WASPs that get all indignant and force everyone else to stop talking.

One of my coworkers had asked something about trans people and bathrooms, and I started to say my piece, but mid sentence the owner comes back like “under no circumstances are you allowed to have this conversation here”.

Oh yeah, so threatening to say that I don’t care who is in what bathroom if they don’t do anything that violates another guests bodily autonomy.

So controversial and brave.

We’ve spent plenty of time talking about the different racist inspired restaurants in the area and the deplorable dog whistle specials they offer, never cared about that offending anyone.

The restaurant in question was the MoonCricket Grille, and they were offering $0.49 Bud lights after the outrage about them in honor of the 49 who died at the Pulse nightclub.

I hate this place…

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[–] PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Eh, sometimes it means another thing, namely that they know their conservatism is off-putting to most women and they’re lying to get you into bed.

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[–] Lunar@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Good lord the replies to this are sad. Believe it or not it's a perfectly reasonable expectation to only want to date someone whose core beliefs align with yours (and, y'know, actually respects your rights as an independent human being.)

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

"in looking for a woman who will respect my core beliefs as an independent human being, which include not treating her like an independent human being"

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As someone with a right-wing father and a left-wing mother: for fuck’s sake date people with your same beliefs. Deep disagreement on something like that is NOT something you can build a trustful relationship upon.

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[–] CaptFeather@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

This is what so many of them think. If they really don't have a problem dating someone left leaning it either means they get off on tearing down strong women or don't really know what they believe and are still just parroting mommy and daddy's beliefs.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

"Why won't women, objects meant to feed and pleasure me, give me the time of day like this super old-ass book I had read and interpreted to me by someone who is likely a child molester said they should? Do they worship Saytahn?"

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[–] Nerdybynature@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The last conservative I matched with was immediately bragging about being unvaccinated, was in his late 30’s, openly religious, desperate for kids.

If you’re openly conservative, you’re baring your soul about women’s rights, and if women don’t want to sleep with you as a result, you made your damn bed.

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[–] grissee@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

posts like these make me wish lemmy has sort by controversial button

[–] kingthrillgore@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The hinges on the meat chasm closed for all conservatives on 24 June 2022.

[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Master@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

24 June 2022

Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade

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[–] HornyOnMain@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

ngl, last time some conservative started flirting with me she got pissed of when i said i wasnt interested because they were a tory flag shagger, and then she called me a slur because im queer

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Fuck 'em. No wait, don't.

[–] ruination@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

It's like how kids throw meaningless insults when throwing a tantrum because they know they can't win in a proper argument.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow I did not expect so many right wingers on blahaj zone. Feels weird

[–] ayyndrew@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It's federated with a bunch of other instances, they probably saw it on their "All" feed

[–] Kinda_Coral@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Call that the free market economy biiiaaatch

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Conservatives: "The free market is superior! Deal with it!"

Conservatives when the free market decides against them: "THIS IS LITERALLY SOCIALISM"

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Dude on the right should be saying "I wouldn't date you either."

[–] Zednix@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You should date someone with at least some reasonable overlap of ideals. If you wish to have a family unit, like conservatives certainly do, you need to have common ground and mutual respect or you will end up with yet another single mother raising a potentially negative statistic and father losing his child or bailing.

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