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You might have ADHD. My medication helps stop some of the internal chaos and lets me be more outwardly focused.
One thing I do is clean my room or the kitchen. It's easy, methodical, gives a boost to my mood when I see my good work, and primes my brain to focus on a harder task.
Thanks, I'll try cleaning when I space out next time.
I definitely relate to OP's situation, and I'm pretty certain I have ADHD. I never really considered that medication might help with this sort of thing.
Why do you think you space out? It doesn't happen to me often, but when it does it's usually because my surroundings aren't very interesting, and my own train of thought is far more engaging. Or maybe I'm exhausted and don't have the energy to stay engaged.
This is a freeze response which is a result of a sum determination by your brain that you aren’t sure of any action that’s better than nothing.
Basically it means when the environment is not well known, your brain decides to freeze, on the basis that any action is more likely to have negative results than positive ones.
There are many places this prediction can comes from.
For example if you’re sick or otherwise weakened, then any mishap is likely to cause more damage to you. Your overall level of vulnerability or susceptibility to harm will influence your likelihood of freezing.
Another thing is if you just don’t know what’s around you. Like, if you’re in a minefield, freezing is a good move until you have more information.
Social interaction and also work can be like a minefield. If you make the wrong decision without understanding the context, you could get hurt. So the less you understand, the more likely you are to freeze.
But understanding isn’t just about the long term learning of subject matter like mechanical engineering or the French language. It’s also about understanding the current state of things. Who has just said what and whether a certain project is ahead or behind or when someone’s going to have a schedule opening for you or whatever.
There’s all this information we have to learn afresh each day, to be ready to make decisions that don’t blow up in our face.
It’s a minefield with new mines each day.
And here’s where it gets ultra fucked: let’s say your social skills aren’t as good as you’d like and you’re worried about your reputation, perhaps a result of facing rebuke for underperforming recently. This creates what’s called a double bind. Double binds create stress and lower your sense of safety and make freezing (and all sorts of other stress responses) more likely.
A double bind is when there’s no safe choice, and either choice could be the wrong choice in a way that it’ll seem obvious in hindsight.
Here the double bind comes from: If you go out seeking information will it hurt you socially? Make you less liked? Harm your relationship with the team?
What if you suspect it might have been said in the meeting? But you don’t want to seem like you weren’t paying attention, by asking. But without the right info, you’d make the wrong decision on this thing. But you also don’t want to see yourself as someone who manipulates perceptions to shape your image, so you quickly jerk your head to clear it and think of something else when you realize that’s the calculation you’re making. But then again it’s so naive to think focusing on the work product is all it takes and yadda yadda yadda.
And then you realize that the thinking itself could be distracting you from actually moving forward, so you think “fuck it I just need to move” but then you move forward without the full story and you make a mistake and it makes your fear of mistakes worse!
This is getting long.
Main point is you’ll tend to freeze when you don’t know what to do. And the more quickly the state of things changes around you, the more likely you’ll fall behind and not have the info to feel safe making decisions. Also, your own stress levels will modulate how much of this uncertainty you can tolerate before you brain decides to kill the dopamine throttle and make you just sit still.
DO you have some form of ADHD? I do, and it does make it that my mind wanders even when I should be engaged with something
From your example you could just be introverted or just not interested in what people around you are interested in.
Something important to answer is, why are they the "things you should be doing"? If it's because people tell you to, and you want to be included but you don't have any interest in the activities, that's normal, don't feel like you need to be more social than you want to be. If they're things you want to do, but you can't find the energy or focus to do them, it could be ADHD, depression, or something else.
I'd say schedule a physical with your doctor, have them check blood work and see if you're getting the right nutrients, and if that all looks relatively fine, talk to a therapist. All of that is good to do regardless.
It could also be technology training your brain to have a short attention span. Go do things that interest you that don't involve screens. Could be as simple as going on more walks, learning a new skill, anything that doesn't involve consuming entertainment (Lemmy counts as entertainment).
Excercise has been helpful for clearing up my head. When I get distracted during work, I would do some jumping squats or push ups and my head will be back in the game. This is only possible because I work from home. It's not always an option when I'm outside.
I try not to use my phone when I'm with people. There has been a couple of instances where I got sucked into the phone and my spatial awareness just stopped working.
Some group settings just aren't for me, the topics they bring up or the way the conversation flows may be boring - so I just stop listening actively and think about something else.
Like you mentioned I should really see a Doctor and a Therapist just in case.
I believe that the lack of quality sleep is also affecting me. I only get less than 6 hours of sleep most days.
If this is something that you consider to be a big of enough issue, look into the Forest app. It’s the only thing that works for me and my ADHD.
It’s an app that plants a digital tree. And if you use your phone during that time, the tree will die. And for each amount of time that you concentrate, you get a certain amount of coins that allow you to purchase more species of trees, so your forest becomes more “decorative” over time. Some of the trees aren’t real, so it makes it fun to see the designs they come up with. And there are seasonal ones to make it fun.
The motivation to care is because after you plant a certain amount of digital trees, an environmental group will plant a tree for you in real life. This has been surprisingly effective for me when needing to focus on a task at work for extended periods of time.
Thanks I will check it out.
Talk to a doctor and make sure it's not something more serious than just going deep into your own thoughts.
Hello. I, myself, am ADHD, and have been diagnosed as such multiple times since 1986. This seems very familiar to me. For myself, i have had endless issues throughout my life where discussion leads me to extreme discomfort and needing to leave / absent myself from the situation. To this day, i struggle with inserting myself in a conversation naturally, and against feeling that everyone is ignoring me in conversation.
it's a lot. if that seems familiar, maybe look into that. you'll figure it out. promise.
i just let myself space out. it usually lasts only a few minutes and then something will catch my interest. sometimes the brain just needs some time to take in the surroundings.
I usually remind myself "the faster I get this done, the more time I have for myself"
Are you dissociating?