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The average cost of delivering a baby in the US, including pre- and post-delivery expenses, is roughly $18,865. However, this figure can vary significantly, just gotta come up with the other 14000 dollars lol do Amerikans know other countries don't gouge their citizens for everything including birth? Land of the fee home of the slave
Fash privileging heteronormativity in order to increase servitude and hasten planetary destruction? Fairly normal in our culture.
5000$ is a lot. In Germany you get only 250€
well, that's
per month until they're 27 (as long as they're still in school/university)
plus free healthcare for mother and child
plus free daycare (depending on the state)
plus free schools and universities
...
We can all hope once the nazis leave, we too can be a civilized country.
If it's like the civil war, we'll kick them out and then build statues and name bases after them.
I'm with you here, but we need to keep in mind that the nazis never "leave". We'll need to forever and continually keep these bastards from power.
You forgot maternity leave, something the 'mricans don't know, either.
To add on, seems like the 5k (USD) is a one-time lump sum. Your price quote from Germany is already 3k (EUR) after a year. It only every outscales the 5k.
I dunno what kind of diaper prices you've got in the US, but $5,000 covers diapers 10 times over in a year where I live... Should probably cover food as well, I would think?
He should know that you can't buy that many diapers with $5k.
Unless he doesn't do his own diaper shopping I guess...
Wages have not kept up with productivity and GDP increases since the 1970s.
How about making single income middle class families possible again, so you can have one stay at home parent.
It won't even cover the cost of giving birth. This is some real "how much could a banana cost" energy.
Also, the cost of giving birth will magically jump up by $5,000 as soon as this passes. It was never a function of how much it cost to actually provide that service.
$8000 if the mother wants to hold her baby after birth
And you wanna take that baby home? Well there's a few for that.
With the tariffs that hardly helps.
Daycare cost $2k a month
Is that for real? That's more than (many) private schools in Europe.
A 2 bedroom 1 bathroom house in Toronto costs more than a castle in france
Well to be fair, that's what it costs in many European countries, too.
That's why many women don't work. The cost is basically as high as a low paying or part time job.
That's why everyone needs free daycare. That will generate a higher GDP for everyone.
https://www.daycarefee.com/countries/germany/
I don't have a full analysis, but at least this source points at 1500 to be the high end of the expensive cities in Germany, with public care as low as 100.
So is 2000 a "normal" value in many areas, or a high end of some?
I have the feeling this is inflated and we just accept.
$3000 is average in the big cities for infant care in a daycare center, and it drops down to about $2000 for toddlers.
Some places have options for home-based care where a person can get licensed to take care of children in their own home, and the prices are generally about half of that of the center-based care.
One big issue is ratios. If the wage for a child care worker is $30/hour including the cost of paid vacation, health insurance, and you need coverage for 9 hours per day, 5 days a week, while needing to maintain one teacher for every 4 kids, that's $340/week or about $1450/month for labor alone, assuming no overtime and perfect staffing ratios. Throw in food, rent, utilities, insurance, other operational expenses, and it's pretty much impossible to provide care for less than $2000/month per child on the costs side.
Thanks for sharing.
I checked for Netherlands and it seems to be easily over 2k a month for fulltime care (172-240 hours).
The thing I wasn't aware of is the subsidies low income parents receive. Up to 96%. Seems to be a bit lower in practice, but still almost all is covered.
That doesn't account for high cost areas, and is dependent on income. But the conclusion seems to be that it's far cheaper than I mentioned for the end consumer.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/15/business/child-care-cost-average-annual
It can depend of state to state too. In Oklahoma, our cost of living is considered low but we have a high poverty rate. Our median income per household is 67k, and single income is 35k. Childcare for infants averages around $800 a month
They'll need a population boost after Trump deny's immigrants entrance into America.