Slop.

SA is usually used in fiction just for pure empty shock value, it isn't about how it affects women, 90% of the time it is just used to "inspire" the men in the story to seek revenge. So usually I'd agree with this statement of it not belonging in a work of fiction.

However, context does matter, and it does just seem like this guy is mad that his cool TV fascists are doing actual fascist things instead of just being "badass" or whatever.

the "Empire Did Nothing Wrong" meme and it's consequences have been a disaster for humankind.

Frankly I hate the idea of a Disney show acting like it can do a service to traumatized victims. I'd much rather be able to enjoy media without thinking about my PTSD. Including these sorts of arcs always ends up like 'oh it was hard and then she got better instantly and got revenge' or whatever which doesn't fucking happen and instills a toxic mindset in society.

I didn't actually look at much of the post btw lmao

SWT has had the wildest arc from pretty standard mild-mannered SW youtuber who made a pretty good Vader short film, to full-blown right-wing grifter, who's openly a Trump and Andrew Tate fan. He makes ragebait videos and tweets and starts culture war nonsense over any SW story that isn't nostalgia bait kiddie garbage. He complained about Andor S1 having bricks and screws. I'm not even joking. On top of all that, he makes AI films with the original trilogy characters and tries to pass them off as Better Than Disney(TM)

Dude is a bottom feeding putrid sack of shit and I just want him to fucking GO AWAY

Content Warning: Expanding on topics in the post title, fictional coercion

As if the Star Wars fandom couldn't get more

A 3+ million sub youtuber who has made their whole personality being a Star Wars-guy has not experienced or has no working memory of the original radio play(1981) that accompanied the og Star Wars where the interrogation of Leia is expanded in grisly detail. Wherein the movie the scene mercifully cuts to black with a door closing behind the torture droid with the scary needle, it appears it was always the intention to portray the scene and the writers had in mind what occurred off screen.

I'm not actually going to listen to it again. But the theme was present in the original movie and it's even a little wild what you could get away with implying in a film and still keep a PG rating in 1977. But I guess I'm just trying to cancel Darth Vader.

SA in SW feels unnecessary

Sexual assault in sex work "feels unnecessary"...? Well, yeah, all SA is unnecessary, it's a horrible thing to do to someone...

You can portray power dynamics and make the audience hate

OK, so this is a work of fiction depicting a sex worker getting sexually assaulted, then? The power dynamic between SW and client, SW and pimp, SW and police?

the empire in other ways without taking it to such a disgusting place

The empire...? So this is an anti-imperialist story? Is it like depicting the precarity of migrant sex work, and how this industry is created by imperialism?

Vader wouldn't tolerate that shit

I AM ONCE AGAIN ASKING ANGLOPHONES TO ADOPT KANJI SPECIFICALLY FOR WRITING ACRONYMS

Edit: Obviously it's my problem for not reading the username and not connecting Andor to Star Wars

Also why he bring up Vader at all when Vader DOESNT EVEN APPEAR ON Andor at all. Like hes expecting Vader to literally know everything and teleport just to force choke a honestly pretty low ranking imperial officer.

Like tbh Vader would not have any appearances that show him directly condone SA because Disney probably wont want their le epic toy figure that ends up in jedi heaven to do that, which is why vader/force users dont really show up in Andor! It would cause a huge tonal dissonance unless they are handled carefully.

Never seen SA portrayed as anything but shock value or seen victims treated respectfully in any form of media whatsoever. This sucks and I hope it's not too egregious because I like the show.

Just about to star andor s2 and therefore have no clue what this is about but I would agree that sexual assault shouldn't be in star wars. I'm not sure what Vader would or would t tolerate but andor does a good enough job already of showing the empire bad and going sexual about it doesn't seem necessary. I'm making a large snack and then watching soon. Whether it would be condoned under the empire doesn't mean it needs to be part of the story. Star wars is a people kiss and fall in love and sometimes have children but the sex aspect is strongly implied at best and that was only in the OT

Okay, just saw what I think was the scene in question and it's fine. It suggests that it's a thing through the implications of a conversation but isn't explicit.

Edit: number, that convo was in the previously on in the next episode so thst wasn't a one off

I can excuse destroying an entire planet and everyone on it, but I draw the line at SA.

-- Darth Vader, probably

cw: expanding upon SA in the scene mentioned in the tweet, spoilers for episode 3 of Andor season 2