Seen some vile transphobia in that instance, just from a short look. Horrible fucking place.
this post was submitted on 26 Apr 2025
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Due to overwhelming support for unilateral defederation from feddit.uk, we will be doing so tomorrow at 8:30pm Moscow time. Please see the previous thread for context.
We wanted to give everyone a heads-up since after we defederate, numerous account actions and deletions will NOT update on the defederated instance due to coding limitations in lemmy. This includes:
-Post edits and deletions
-Account edits (bio, profile picture, display name)
-Account deletions
In the future this will likely be fixed, but due to the dev work required it's not feasible to change in the short term. If you have any account or post changes you want to make, please do so before 4/27 8:30pm Moscow Time, or when this post is 24hrs old.
Thanks to everyone who provided their feedback. We will continue to fight transphobia and reactionary rhetoric on this instance for the safety of our users 
kneecap go on hexbear 
As someone (unfortunately) from Biscuit Island, I approve.
Good. No more of that instance and their “ccp” whining.
Seeya folks! Kinda liked having you guys around, it's nice to see varying opinions it keeps me more open minded. Although obviously you'd disagree with that statement
so... I actually agree that defederation may not be necessary here if your instance got its shit together and started modding transphobia as they say they will, and that the evidence was poorly presented and evaluated. At least one of your admins seems really on top of recognizing and calling out transphobia, but is not currently empowered to delete it in the politics comms.
BUT, not because the user in question wasn't being transphobic or was just discussing the law , as you've asserted further down the chain here. they literally insisted that woman = cis woman and "transwoman" is something different, with no reference to the law. this is literally just a slightly more roundabout way of saying trans women arent real women, an obviously transphobic statement. Combined with the context of defending a ruling and a position by your PM in favor of banning trans women from womens spaces and other discriminatory measures, and the on the ground hate crimes it will inspire, thats actually a despicable position to take and defedding over that is not extreme for a vast-majority-queer instance.
And we aren't shutting off from 'the entire country', just one instance with moderation issues. just as I wouldnt be caught dead on lemmy.muri.ca, plenty of uk users aren't restricting themselves to the instance with a fuckin union jack on it, and those are the ones I'm interested in talking to anyhow
transphobia isn't an opinion it's a "please face the wall"
I was referring to the hexbear opinions not the transphobia
Unfortunately when the varying opinion is whether or not our trans users should be harassed, there's no room for open mindedness. We just can't take the risk with instances who's admins are lax on protections we enjoy here. If you find things that are posted here interesting, I'd suggest making an account.
Many people have recently.
Varying opinions doesn't extend to hate speech
Although obviously you'd disagree with that statement
Don't disagree.
We don't mind opposing information insofar as it isn't spammy gotchas or reactionary attacks on marginalized groups.
Removing "vuvuzela no iphone" and "communism bad tianmen winny the pooh" comments prevents this place from being the same annoying fight fest that every other liberal social media platform is.
Good faith discussion isn't a bad thing, but removing tired low-effort garbage is necessary to have a space where we can focus on our own discussions without derailing into having the same debates over and over. Most of those types of comments aren't good faith anyway and those users just want to stick it to us rather than explore ideas.
Hopefully someday we can reunite with you if feddit.uk changes or you make an account on another lemmy server.
I wasn't referring to that sort of stuff, I meant with this defederation. A bit extreme in my opinion.
Defederation is the choice that prevents the mod team from having to do a lot more moderating.
Sure, it is the most "extreme" option out of what a federated server can do, but anyone who really wants to participate in conversations with Hexbear can join any other Lemmy server that federates with us. Anyone who really wants to see or interact with our content will be able to.
So really it is us deciding the reach of federating with that server is worth less that the expected moderation effort. Not very extreme IMO.
You think it’s extreme to protect trans people here from those who completely dehumanize us?
Sure when you phrase it like that it sounds black and white, but i don't think the comment in question was "completely dehumanising". They were saying that, in law, "woman" refers to cis women. Which is what our supreme court decided recently. Horrible decision, and I disagree with it, but it's something to fight against. Not completely shut off from the entire country and hide in your bubble. Because if you do that your bubble will get smaller and smaller.
Because if you do that your bubble will get smaller and smaller.
For some of us, this bubble is the only place their identity isn't under constant attack.
Bigots and liberal ideas exist everywhere. We won't miss anything by excluding them.
Creating a total commie bubble within a liberal society would take so much fucking effort that suggesting that blocking safe havens for bigotry prevents us from seeing important ideas is actually hilarious.
Feddit has no obligation to submit to a supreme court ruling. The Feddit admins simply have no intention of preventing transphobia on their instance. Either they agree with it, or they're too weak to stop it.
On Hexbear we have a fantastic melange of people who would be banned on sight in other instances purely because of their country of origin. I value that global scale bubble.
Sounds like the supreme court ruling is just the thin veil needed to justify doing what they wanted to do anyway.
Fair enough
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He literally called trans women "it".
transphobia
I can call it a woman who used to have a penis or a woman who used to be a man if you want me to be pedantic about it.
There’s absolutely no excuse for letting such a fucked-up comment stay up. It’s such an obvious instaban.
Going to fight the injust rulings of one country's supreme court by conceding to their points on my international website for no reason other than it's easier to side with bigots than it is to fight them
Hexbear.net defederates with feddit .^y^ uk
Is this extreamism?
Saying something is extreme doesn't mean it's extremism. Is it extremism when I play Metal Gear Solid on the hardest difficulty?
I think it’s extreme that you don’t mind transphobia.
I mind it
Do you realllly tho? 
You can go through my chat history if you want, I call out transphobia from time to time. I call it out in person too. I've had plenty a drunken argument with friends and acquaintances when they've said something harsh.
Had a good argument with a guy at a music festival last year who accused me of "gatekeeping language" (he said the bad T word) and I was like "yknow what? Yes I am gatekeeping it. There's a gate around it and you're not allowed in. Nor am I. Or anybody". He laughed at my response and actually calmed down after a while. Not sure if I got through to him fully but I planted a seed at least. People are a lot more reasonable if you don't jump straight into calling them Hitler.
I'm really not the villain this thread wants me to be.
if you don't jump straight into calling them Hitler
Did ChatGPT write this for you? Really going with the classic right wing whines huh? And not only are you NOT HITLER, you're also a super cool ALLY, WOWIE! 
Anyway I called you a dumb troll not Hitler, get over yourself
If you did you'd make your feelings clearer in your original comment and delete your feddit.ukkk account.
You completely downplayed it in your other reply.
Ok I'll clarify. Guy is probably a bigot, he can fuck off for all I care. If he got punched in the face I'd be cheering. I don't want him on my instance. But we can't ban people for stating the law
I call you out for completely downplaying a comment refering to us as "it", and you do it again by saying that he’s "probably" a bigot. Are you serious?
And for the last part: If they approve of this law, we sure as fuck can ban them. Why not?
I interpreted it differently, I thought they were referring to the situation as it. Like a "call it what you will" kind of phrase. Judging by this entire thread, everyone is reading everything in bad faith and giving 0 benefit of the doubt. Which I don't blame but I don't think everyone is always as bad as you think they are. I hate how polarised and antagonistic the internet is, but I realise I'm coming from a privileged position to be able to be so forgiving. Anyway no point having an extended discussion here, we'll be cut off in no time! Farewell!
Judging by this entire thread, everyone is reading everything in bad faith and giving 0 benefit of the doubt
It became blatantly obvious what you were doing after like the third comment, I've always warned dipshit trolls who think this is twitter or a youtube comment section
NONE OF YOU ARE SMART ENOUGH TO TROLL THIS INSTANCE
Protip, your dead giveaway was your over-the-top "concern" for "open-mindedness" and "varying opinions"......forum engineering nerds don't express views like that while simultaneously being too dense to recognize the obvious bigotry that's undermining the forum experiment
If federation was at the forefront of your mind you would've immediately advocated for banning the transphobes that led to defederation, instead you played dumb and tipped your hand
Nice try 
Hexbear.net defederates with feddit .^y^ uk
Is this extreme?
Happy now?
extremely cool and good
Maybe clarify that it's over a single comment by a single user in the top text? Then I'd be happy yep.
It’s not about a single comment or a single user (especially since there were multiple), but about the behaviour of the entire admin team, who after 3 days are still debating whether or not to do anything about it.
It’s so fucking selfish of you to expect trans people to put up with transphobes coming in here and treating us like shit, when all you have to do is just make another account here.
LIZZY'S IN A BOX IN A BOX
Thatchers still dead.
I asked to defederate as well in my small instance, but I think our admin is sleeping or partying because he had not answered yet. Waiting until Monday for him to answer before I'm going to make a fuss on the irc channel.
I didn't vote either way but this was the right decision and I approve 
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