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Originally this was a reply to this article about a Windows feature called Recall, but there's a good argument the author's concerns resonate far beyond Windows and Meta to proprietary generally.

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[–] gameplayer55055@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

Let's see what people will do at October 14

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

Do, or do not, there is no try.

[–] ungsund@lemm.ee 1 points 32 minutes ago

YOU CAN'T DENY THE WAVEEEEE

I'm been using linux mint for over a year now, and it is legit liberating.

[–] array@lemm.ee -1 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago) (1 children)

YEA I'M GONNA DO IT BASED ON FUD AND NO CITATION BECAUSE SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET SAYS THEY WORK AT FACEBOOK

lemmy users just pretend to be intellectuals

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 14 minutes ago

Easy on the hatorade

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 33 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Protests crack down on the internet has been going on for quite some time, don't just blame it on trump but on the whole government and its infrastructure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

And Facebook as an integrated part of the international surveillance state has been firmly established since Snowden leaked the PRISM program.

Like, there are a lot of reasons to switch to linux and plenty of them are compelling. But its an absolute fantasy to believe you're somehow immune to surveillance because you're using the same software as Amazon's EC2. Does anyone really believe the NSA hasn't cracked Linux Mint yet?

Or, for that matter, that using a linux desktop is going to insulate you from being spied on via a public facing 3rd party social media forum?

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You mean with the USA Intel or AMD CPUs?

Think that it doesn't matter what you use as OS as the microchip inside the CPU chip can read anything it wants

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Sure. Although that's just a matter of unplugging your computer from the Internet. Also, at least in theory, Linux isn't actively leaking all your data into various Cloud services. Microsoft OneDrive and Google Drive are just invitations for the NSA to paw through your file system.

I just can't imagine how Linux protects you from posting on Facebook.

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It wont protect there.

Also, I remember articles back then mentioning 5G Towers could create a dystopia because every company could easily put a 5G chip into the product and secretly track you regardless of Wifi.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

One should be have been assuming since Windows 7 and automated online updates that the Microsoft key used to sign OS updates is in the hands of at least the NSA (and hence probably the Israeli equivalent) and they can push whatever they want to your computer as an OS update, bypassing all protections.

In fact the same applies to Linux updates of certain distros - if they're maintained by a company based in the US they can be forced by FISA courts to provide the signing keys to the US Government.

More in general, just go read about FISA courts and their secret court orders - companies based in the US or hosting things in the US can be secretly forced to just "give the keys of the Realm" to parts of the US Government.

Since things like the Patriot act one should be treating companies based in the US as just as untrustworthy as companies based in China.

(By the way, some other supposed Democratic countries have similar or worse systems - for example the equivalent of FISA courts in the UK have things like secret court sessions were the side which is not the State is not authorized to have a legal representation, see most of the evidence or even know the decision of the court).

Have people already forgot most of what came out in the Snowden Revelations?!

[–] theblips@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Would stuff like Fedora be in danger, in this case? I couldn't find if Red Hat was US based

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

In theory yes since they're essentially sponsored by RedHat. (RedHat is owned by IBM)

Which is funny because the Snowden leaks actually showed the NSA likes using Fedora for their fancy spy tech lol.

I guess a good alternative would be OpenSUSE.

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

Yep... Snowden, Chelsea* Manning, Assange and an older whistleblower who died recently but I forgot his name... They also forgot what Cambridge Analytica was about. They just need to throw some bread and games at us and we go one living as nothing ever happend.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Chelsea Manning

Fuck is wrong with you

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Chelsea* Manning

But, yeah, most people just do not care if they are spied on because they don't think it will be used for anything besides advertising. Trump is going to wake a lot of people up to the immense power we've handed over to our tech overlords.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They just need to throw some bread and games at us and we go one living as nothing ever happend.

I mean, there's not a whole lot of alternative. It seems like the only two "valid" avenues of resistance are retreating from society into a hermetically sealed bubble and starting a podcast.

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Haha, yeah It seems so...

Another option and a more long term solution would be to go back to the roots and relearn the basics of living !

How to grow a garden, How to hunt, How to build a small wooden house, how to make fire and then rebuild the technology but only the needed ones.

If we grew things and dug together the rare ores to make solar panels together, build small wind turbines, waterwheels as a community hands by hands... We would probably profit more and enjoy ourselves way more than ever...

Regardless we prefer being held hostage by our own limitations and technology constraints... Not blaming anyone here except myself, It's just a sad though we could all live happy in a more green state without this mass nonsense technology...

But hey... What's better than living for ourselves and hard earned money? Huh? Our day to day routine on Netflix, YouTube, Lemmy, twitter Facebook... 7-16 day to day job we all hate thinking we are going to enjoy life when we are old and retired? Emotionally dead gifts bought on Amazon, eBay, temu....

Without saying... Life sucks ! And If you enjoy this kind of life, What can I say... :/ I either envy you for being a brainless sheep or hate you like I hate myself for not burning down this system all together !

Pick your poison !

/Rant off

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Another option and a more long term solution would be to go back to the roots and relearn the basics of living !

That requires large plots of arable land.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Clara_Valley

The valley, named after the Spanish Mission Santa Clara, was for a time known as the Valley of Heart's Delight for its high concentration of orchards, flowering trees, and plants. Until the 1960s it was the largest fruit-producing and packing region in the world, with 39 canneries. The growing high-tech industry in the 1960s transformed the area from farmland to densely populated cities, and it became referred to as the Silicon Valley.

But we paved over paradise and put up a parking lot.

There's no unfucking that chicken. We are living in a world that is substantially less arable than it was a century ago. We do not have an Eden to go back to.

[–] bipedalsheep@programming.dev 16 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I switched from Fedora to openSUSE recently and it has been painless. Would recommend to anyone who are looking to get away from US companies and US jurisdiction. Edit: note that it uses RPM package manager though, I don't know yet if that is problematic or not. If someone knows then please elaborate on that.

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Tumbleweed or Leap or something else?

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Most likely Tumbleweed. As it is the most modern of them. Because it is rolling.

[–] bipedalsheep@programming.dev 6 points 8 hours ago

Correct, Tumbleweed is the one I started using.

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[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 30 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

To all the people who are criticising this guy for working for Meta, I would like to remind you of the phrase, "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer".

I am very much a left-winger, but I still read right-wing papers and articles, I like to know what the other side is thinking.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer”.

Bruh, it's not game of thrones. People just need to work.

[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 1 points 55 minutes ago

If you can get a job at Facebook then you could easily find employment elsewhere. And no it's not Game of Thrones, but I would love to see Zuckerberg get the Joffrey treatment.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Less criticism and more pity.

Sheryl Sandberg seems like a Grade A asshole to work for - possibly the only woman CEO I've ever heard of getting #MeToo'd. Zuckerberg is an absolute baby-brain completely up his own asshole with delusions of grandeur, outright comparing himself to Roman Emperors.

But if you get into the tell-all released by Sarah Wynn-Williams, all you really take away from it is that this company is as corrosive to the body public as it is ravenous for economic expansion. There's no "keeping close" that's going to be good for you in the long run. Might as well try to keep a rabid dog on a short leash.

I am very much a left-winger, but I still read right-wing papers and articles, I like to know what the other side is thinking.

I'm not above peaking in on Citations Needed or QAnon Anonymous to see how the other side lives. But the actual right-wing material itself is really ugly stuff, particularly in the modern moment. When it isn't nakedly xenophobic or Mean Girls callously cruel, its just pumping your eyeballs and ear holes full of the dumbest fucking advertisements imaginable.

Not good to ingest that stuff.

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