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TranscriptA tweet saying "When men refer to themselves as "alpha males", I hear that int he context of software, where alpha versions are unstable, missing importand features, filled with flaws and not fit for the public.

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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 49 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Quite reasonable given that the animal behavior researchers recanted on the wolf research that led to a mistaken usage of the terms alpha and beta. Turns out they were just looking at adult wolves and labeling them alpha, and juvenile wolves and labeling those beta.

[–] irelephant@programming.dev 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The person who published that paper has spent so much of his life trying to inform people that it is flawed.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 26 points 2 months ago

And so many of the "how do you know what the author meant?" "I AM THE AUTHOR!"

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A lot of the Alpha/Beta hierarchies that right-wingers venerate also have strong parallels between parent/child relationships. Almost as though there is this generation of excess males desperately looking for adults to emulate, only to be lured into industrialized fascism. They're chewed up and spit out as goons operating for the personal profit of a bourgeois landlord class.

Really depressing stuff. The myth of the primitive social tribe used to corrupt young men into becoming agents of post-modern wealth aggregation machine.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There were so many different 'primitive social' systems, that doubtless ( at least in my mind) operated in every imagineable way over the past 300K-150K years. Some worked better than others, some disappeared because there was some event (giant flood, wolf pack ate everyone, etc), and not because they were any less useful, or less functional.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm still bummed out by the degree to which "feeding young people into the kill-or-be-killed media machine" seems to be succeeding as an organizing principle.

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago

smae - it's never been a fav rubric. I'm always pumping the anarchisms, and 'if everybody wins, that means nobody loses' memes.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If someone advertises that they are supposedly “better” than someone else, I think “what a loser” and that they are most likely a liar.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Humility is a lost art.

[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When I hear someone say alpha/beta whatever my brain just goes to omegaverse hah

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Trying to be alpha is such a beta thing to do.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 14 points 2 months ago

And alpha radiation, which has next to no penetrating power.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Alpha male? Beta male? Is there a Production model male as well?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yee, the production model is Pedro Pascal

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago

That explains why my ex wife has the dude printed on a pillow sheet

[–] Coding4Fun@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago

Yep. The requirements are clear:

Be kind and respectful with everyone. Be accountable for your actions. Be honest and transparent about you expectations and intentions in any relationship.

That is it. But seems those are requirements hard to implement those days.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's what you would call people who feel secure in who they are.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I myself am more of a vertical slice...

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago

Jack of all trades, master of none...

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago
[–] sep@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Even release models are flawed.. wait for the second patch atleast!

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I’m a Gold Master Male. I’m ready for mass ~~procreation~~ duplication.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I feel like I’m a deprecated male

[–] kevin2107@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

and production still needs to get staged in beta before pushing

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

In the context of software it can mean whatever the fuck dev wants.

[–] irelephant@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago

It essentially means, "beware, the software is pretty shit rn".