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imagine if someone just like started addressing you as Dipshit, like youre just talking about your day & they say "no way Dipshit, that's crazy." and then maybe you say to them that you would prefer not to be addressed as Dipshit & their response is "well in my major metropolitan area 'Dipshit' is not considered an insult. im not saying i think youre stupid when i call you Dipshit, i call my mom dipshit all the time" so you say Thats cool but please dont call Me that. and then they just repeat that it's something they say daily, they call all of their best friends & lovers dipshits & are called dipshit in return. "my grandma calls me dipshit at the dinner table, it doesnt mean anything." so you say Yes i understand that your friends & grandma arent bothered by being called Dipshit but i am, & i would prefer if you didnt address me as that. and they say "it's literally not possible for me to stop calling you dipshit, and it's not reasonable for you to ask me to, dipshit." anyway this post is about nothing in particular

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[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

~~one more report and~~ I'm locking this whole mf thread

I'm not reading my way through 200 comments but I'm locking this so I can keep up with whatever you all report.

My Original Comments:

spoilerI understand this is a controversial topic but y'all need to behave your damn selves

The basics are:

  • This is fundamentally a discussion about hurtful language, including slurs. I don't mind them being mentioned / referenced (in fact I would argue it's important to talk about them), but I'm not going to tolerate them being directed at people. This is y'alls final warning on that. I've removed some comments already but after this I'm just going to start handing out bans.
  • I know there's alternate interfaces for Lemmy, but on the basic version I'm familiar with, under each comment there is a button on the left end of the bar of buttons with three dots and a little arrow indicating additional options. If you press it, you will find that you have the option to "block" other users. This function will make it so that you no longer have to see anything they post or interact with them. This is a fantastic feature that I highly recommend utilizing in the event that someone says something you find upsetting that does not break the rules of this comm or instance.

Please review this educational material for additional instruction if you are still having difficulty with these concepts.

[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 18 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

As an Australian, what the fuck us this cunt talking about

As a trans woman, I've heard this argument used when people want to call me "Bro" or "man". It would probably apply to a number of common slurs too, such as "retard".

[–] AGD4@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago
[–] RedSnt@feddit.dk 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is obviously about Australians calling their mates "cunts".

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[–] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

"Is it possible to learn this allegory?"

"Not from the Daily Wire."

[–] NeonNight@lemm.ee 34 points 1 day ago (14 children)

I’m personally kind of reminded of how “faggot” and “dyke” are being “taken back” and used jokingly/sarcastically, but I still get really uncomfortable if someone uses them with me. They’ll say “oh I don’t mean it offensively!” But it’s not really up to you to decide what’s offending another person or not.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's like people say "Please don't call me that," and instead the person who called them that hears "You did something wrong for calling me that," and they get defensive. It's one of those things that, once you notice, you'll see it everywhere. Not just about nicknames. It could be anything. It's like no matter what you say in response they just view it like you're angry or saying they're a bad person. "I know you didn't mean anything by it, but I don't like it and would prefer that you didn't." Nope. Some folks just can't comprehend it. "I know other people are okay with it. I'm not saying you should stop calling them that." Nope! Their ego is now in defense mode lol.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

instead the person who called them that hears “You did something wrong for calling me that,” and they get defensive. It’s one of those things that, once you notice, you’ll see it everywhere.

And not just about language and people addressing each other.

This phenomenon has been enhanced and amplified with online discussion, so that now we all "choose" to spend our time around people and spaces that reflect how we already feel about a variety of things. So that as soon as you encounter someone outside of that comfort zone who has different preferences, you will see it as stressful and hostile.

In the Great Before Times, when people talked to each other face-to-face, we all learned pretty fast that we need to be compromising and thoughtful and actually listen to each other without presumption of hate or hostility, or we get pushed away from people and end up alone. Or punched in the snotlocker.

[–] NeonNight@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

Yep, you really hit the nail on the head

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I have one friend who uses the R word and insists it's to reclaim the term, but they almost exclusively use it in a self-degrading manner. They seem to be the only one in their circle that uses the word, and they've had lively arguments over whether or not it's a word to reclaim. I've stayed out of it but when the only person I've encountered who says they're trying to reclaim a slur seems to be using it to degrade themselves, I question if it's worth even trying to reclaim. It's just a word, let it be entirely forgotten to the sands of time like "forsooth" and any other words I don't know because they've left virtually all people's lexicons

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 17 hours ago

I can be such a forsooth sometimes.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I once had someone tell me very very earnestly that the word Queer - a word I literally marched under in protest - was the worst most horrible slur ever, then turn around and use fruit.

Baby comm members need naptime methinks

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Some older folks have a genuine visceral reaction to “queer” because, whether it’s been taken back or not, you can’t just psychologically undo a lifetime of that word having been weaponized against you.

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Tbf, that word in it's original definition literally means "Weird" or "Unnatural". Like: "A circle in the triangle factory? How queer!"

As for all the other words and their association with LGBTQ I have no clue.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 16 hours ago

I'm fine with it as an adjective, not a noun, which I'm aware is a pretty fine distinction for a lot of people.

But I also use it exactly because of the reason you describe.

I don't just want scrubbed white monogamous wealthy gay men like Peter Thiel and Neal Patrick Harris to be free, I want everyone to be free, particularly when their self expression is highly unusual.

There never needs to be a square liberation movement, but there will always be a need for queer liberation.

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[–] CloudheartTV@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

I thought this was a post about the overuse of “dude”

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

New response if TERFism:

"Ok dipshit"

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

We'll win the social media battle with that one for sure.

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You're not going to change their minds no matter how much effort you put in. Might as well give a zero effort response.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago

I thought the last idea was great, but we’ll win the social media battle with this method for sure. All the rights are gonna come back.

[–] DefinitelyNotAnAlien@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (7 children)

It’s like when I lived in Miami and everyone called me “gringo” or “flaco.” When I asked them to stop they would say it was endearing. But imagine if I called them “removed” or “fatty” what their reaction would be.

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[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 30 points 1 day ago

Generally being nice to other people is a good thing. It makes the world a nicer place for everyone. And in cases like this, it seems like it is pretty easy to be nice - just don't call that person 'dipshit'. That just seems like a very low-cost way to show the person that you respect them.

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