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Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers said Friday that every American should be concerned about “chilling” suggestions from President Donald Trump's top border adviser that he could be arrested over guidance the Democrat issued to state employees about what to do if confronted by federal immigration agents.

“I’m not afraid,” Evers said in the extraordinary video posted on YouTube. “I’ve never once been discouraged from doing the right thing and I will not start today.”

At issue is guidance Evers' administration issued last month in response to state workers who asked what they should do if agents with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement show up at their offices.

Evers' guidance advised them to contact an attorney immediately and ask the officers to return if an attorney is unavailable. The memo also advises state workers not to turn over paper files or give ICE officers access to computers without first consulting the state agency's attorney and not to answer questions from the agents.

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This is what true bravery looks like. All Democrats in power should take note.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Evers further proving why my vote for him is 700,000% worth it

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Evers definitely one of the few good ones still out there. No idea how you elected Scott Walker and then found this guy. Wisconsin is a land of contrasts.

[–] SabinStargem 74 points 1 day ago

This is what governors and agency heads should be doing. Complying in advance only encourages the bully.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That just seems like good advice for any law enforcement interaction. If that is grounds for arrest, we've fallen even farther than I thought already and I thought we'd fallen pretty far.

[–] dzso@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 23 hours ago

Tom Petty serenades this

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's the limit of the Regime. They can make meaningless threats or go after vulnerable people. Fascists don't pick fights they can't win or at least face no consequences.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Sooner or later, fascists try to invade Russia. It doesn't go well after that. As much as they run their mouth off about strength and alpha male bullshit, they are shockingly bad at actual fights against anyone in their weight class.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fascists have successfully couped Russia and have been waging semi-successful wars of conquest for the past 30 years.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not against their weight class. In fact, Ukraine is a notch below Russia's weight class, and they stopped Russia from reaching Kyiv before any significant western supplies started to arrive.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well yeah, but to quote that unnamed Ukrainian soldier, they were lucky the Russians were so stupid.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder how many of them are intentionally stupid. This isn't their war. Some of them know it's wrong.

The ruling class always underestimates the value of good will from the working class.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago

“Intention” is a strange word to use here. The generals who were stealing and reselling military supplies weren’t doing it accidentally, but they might not have expected the impact it would have.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 1 day ago

Which would be my point.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

... I mean, in this case it's Russian fascists trying to control everyone else through the same control techniques they refined at home...

Invade? More like form a union. The Germany-Italy type.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sooner or later, fascists try to invade Russia.

Okay, but don't we hate Russia?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago

Metaphorically. Not that I particularly liked the regime in Russia at the time either, but the important point is that invading them was when Nazis came to the intersection of Fuck Around and Find Out.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean, go ahead, arrest all democratic governors. More supporting evidence for asylum claims.

Maybe California would finally become a republic, and perhaps become the new "beacon of freedom" (well it was better than the last "beacon of freedom" anyways)

[–] GenerationII@lemm.ee 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Theoretically, if this happened, what exactly would happen to folks like me born and raised in California but living out of state?

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

I assume it would be both jus soli and jus sanguinis

If you a born there, you were a Californian Citizen.

If you were there when they declare independendence, you were a Citizen (similar to the US Constitution, where everyone became citizen of the US if they were in tge 13 colonies at the moment it came into force, even if they just arrived from England).

If weren't there when they ratify the New Californian Republic Constitution, and you weren't born there, and you don't have parent's born there, then you'd probabaly not be a citizen.

They'll probably also look at CA state tax record and might give citizenship if you've lived there for X amount of years preceeding the ratification of the Californian Constitution.

I think its also possible California doesn't become an independent country, but form a different "United States" with other Blue states.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A bit early for the NCR. We haven't bombed the whole fucking planet yet.

[–] Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago

I don't mind if we skip that step personally