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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 19 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Funny how the article claims Tesla model Y leads, and then fails to show any sales numbers for individual models, not even the Model Y the article seems to promote.
It makes me question whether it's actually true?

[–] llothar@lemmy.ml 23 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

https://elbilstatistikk.no/ - registration data for Norway live. Model Y definately leads sales in 2025.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks! 👍
Funny how the article completely fails to provide data about the claim in the headline though?

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Not funny. I've been noticing this a lot in articles even from reputable news agencies.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

I'm guessing Tesla is going down anyway, Model Y probably only came in at number one, because there was a backlog of orders from people waiting for months for the new model. Model Y isn't really that good an option anymore, there is a lot of competition with better models from other brands now.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 19 points 11 hours ago

Tesla sucks ass

[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 32 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The sales of Model Y have actually declined in Norway, though they're still slightly up from the same month last year. The main reason is most likely that they launched a 2,99% interest sale and reintroduced free charging at Tesla stations. Good luck to the buyers with selling it in a couple years, though.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Always a pleasure seeing that peoples' moral compass can be spun 180° by a few hundred bucks saving on a car that costs 3 times its worth.

[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

Well, moral compass will be weighed up against personal finance (actual income has declined drastically in Norway) and whether Elon is a US problem or a Norway problem. A lot of people might think that Elon is a stinking Nazi turd, but we can't smell him on this side of the Atlantic. Not a good way of approaching the matter, mind you. We should keep in mind that throughout modern history, the US has had a habit of making their problems everyone else's, like the problematic uncle at the family Christmas gathering.

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 22 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I can't relate to anyone buying a Tessla in this time and age.

[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago

I certainly agree, people should be more conscious of where they allow their money to end up. I have a VW now, but would probably not have bought one in 1938.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 12 hours ago
[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 22 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

~~That's ironic considering Tesla sales plummeted in other places. Maybe they're shamelessly buying up all the used ones people are selling out shame?~~

Just a misleading claikbit headline. Tesla market share is still down (still leading tho, but not for long):

The battle for car buyers has not diminished with an increasing number of Chinese brands and models on the market around the world. In Norway, too, many people are choosing Chinese cars, which so far this year have a market share of around 12 per cent. A small increase, but relatively stable. On the other hand, Tesla, which has long dominated new car sales, is currently struggling in Norway. At the beginning of May, Tesla had a market share of 11 per cent, compared with 18 per cent at the same time last year.

Translated from Norwegian with DeepL.

https://ofv.no/aktuelt/2025/nybilsalget-p%C3%A5-vei-opp

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Thanks for posting the actual numbers. Tesla model Y may be the leading model, but Tesla only has that one model in top 10, totaling 7.7% on the list.
VW is clearly the leading brand now, with 3 models in top 10 and 18.1% of the market with those.

So a bit funny to make a headline that says Tesla model Y leads the charge, when VW has more than twice the BEV market share of what Tesla has.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago

Totally misleading, i agree

[–] tal 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

I do have to credit Norway with the EVs: while Norway is relatively-well-to-do and can afford EVs more than many countries, it did so despite geography that was pretty unfavorable.

It's a country that gets pretty cold (albeit not to the degree that many other places at similar northern latitudes are, due to their proximity to water). One of the challenges EVs have is cold weather reducing EV range, and that's on top of not having a free source of waste heat to run the car heater from an ICE, so all the energy to run a heater has to also be pulled from the battery.

IIRC at least some of the Teslas have laminated glass on windows other than the windshield, which I mostly think of as being interesting in terms of sound insulation, but understand also does provide some thermal insulation. I don't know if anyone makes an "Arctic package" for Tesla vehicles.

Here's someone talking about charging issues at very low temperatures:

https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/ztp410/extreme_cold_weather_review_tesla_model_3_rwd/

Charging: As I don't drive that much, I am typically satisfied with Level 1 charging at home. I usually can charge 20% of my battery overnight. At -40c however, the car doesn't charge at all when I get home. So I heat my garage a bit and get the temperature just a bit above freezing, and I wait 2 or 3 hours for the battery to warm a bit, and the battery starts charging at about -5 degrees at a rate of 1kW, or 6.7km/hr.

[–] llothar@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, I think Norway is perfect country for EV adoption. Winters are not that cold - most of population lives on the coast. Mountain driving is much better in EV than in a fossil car - when you need to descent from a high altitude in petrol car you have to remember to keep high gear and not to burn breaks. In EV you just smile at the battery charge going up.

In Norway almost all driving is 70 - 90 km/h tops. You have quite high efficiency here, so a 400km rated EV will actually deliver that range on a road trip. It is like 5 hours of driving before you need to charge again. In central Europe in a similar car you jump on a motorway and at 140km/h you need to recharge after 2 hours or so, which is annoying.

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

when you need to descent from a high altitude in petrol car you have to remember to keep high gear and not to burn breaks

I thought you kept a lower gear to better control the speed. Have I been driving wrong all this time¿?

[–] llothar@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Your are absolutely right. I have misspoken (miswritten?).

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

The main issue in winter is traction, at least with the cheaper EVs, not range.

Norway is not that big of a country, it’s pretty rare that people will drive anywhere above 2 hours away

Idk where this person lives where it gets to -40c regularly. In most of Norway it’s usually 0 - -20c at the most during winter

[–] llothar@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

I agree that people rarely drive more than 2 hours, but Norway is pretty big, or at least long - over 2000km between Kristiansand and Trømso.

[–] tal 1 points 11 hours ago

He's in Canada. Probably inland, away from water.