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Israeli diplomat pressured US college to drop course on ‘apartheid’ debate (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The course was designed and taught by Nathan Thrall, a Jewish American writer and researcher who lives in Jerusalem.

“This class is wrong in its inception, and we are ethically compelled to point out why: Nathan Thrall is heavily financed by the government by Qatar, a leading funder of Hamas and other officially designated terrorist groups,” he said.

They're really trying to pull that claim on an actual Jewish person, huh?

“Must we accept as coincidence Mr Soros finances Mr Thrall and Bard?” Drimer added. “I am compelled to connect the dots.”

Oh, there we are. Qanon conspiracies.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

There is no greater traitor to Israel than an anti Zionist Jew.

[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If that isn’t an admission…

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This actually happened before the current conflict, it's a good read, it tell one small part of a story on how Israel have a tight grip toward any conversation toward the state.

[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know, but apartheid in Israel did not just start now. It’s been going on since forever. They can deny all they want, but they keep telling on themselves. Mostly unintentional of course, but admitting regardless.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s been going on since forever.

Not really tho, as Israel as a nation didn't exist until 1948 ... a mere 75 years ago. And in the beginning it was not powerful, nor able to withstand incursions from surrounding nations who didn't want Israel to exist.

Since then it has garnered the unwaivering support of the most powerful nation on earth and has become like the brutal spoiled child, demanding everything and doing whatever it must to get it.

[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course, yes. But for most people on here ~75 yrs = forever. It was well before most of us were born. But you’re right, it started mostly in 1948.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... it started mostly in 1948

Not to be pedantic here, but it did start in 1948 ... because before that there had been no Jewish state for almost 2000 years, after Rome destroyed the Second Temple in 70 AD and the Diaspora began.

[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It started before 1948 even, because although Israel was officially not a state until then, there was turmoil because of people moving there and wanting to start their state on occupied land. If you look at the history there was unrest around WWI already. It just escalated after 1948 because the west legitimized the existence of Israel.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How could less than 10% of Palestine's population cause unrest on the eve of WW1? Because there were only 80,000 Jews in Palestine then.

If you have sources saying otherwise, please post them.

[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Balfour Declaration is a great place to start, here’s the Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That was written after WW1 began. The link and population I provided were from pre-WW1.

So no, it's not a good place to start.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"around WWI" does not mean pre-WWI, just around that time. And 1917 is definitely around WWI.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok. You're right about that.

But the link to the Balfour is about what Britain did, not Jewish people.

Do you have any links verifying your statement that Jewish people were practicing apartheid during WW1?

[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry, I should have been more clear; the actual apartheid started with the creation of the state of Israel (of course). The unrest, suppression, stealing of land and property, and discrimination of people started way before.

[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That was not the discussion, the point of discussion was “before or after 1948”.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pressured? They just told their American dogs to sit down and wag their tail. Roll little Democrat. Now bark.

[–] koraro@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Except the course wasn't dropped.