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Summary

Elon Musk rejected accusations of Nazi sympathies in a Fox News interview, calling it “outrageous” and blaming media propaganda.

Critics point to his straight-arm salute at Trump’s rally, endorsement of a German far-right party, and reinstating white supremacist accounts on X.

His cuts to federal agencies under DOGE have sparked protests and vandalism, including nicknaming Teslas “swasticars.”

Musk claims he's targeted for character assassination and receives daily death threats. He and Lara Trump compared the attacks to those against Donald Trump, accusing mainstream media of spreading lies.

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 37 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

That's exactly what a Nazi would say

[–] tal 19 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Calling the press propaganda was.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lying_press

"Lying press" (German: Lügenpresse, lit. 'press of lies' [ˈlyːɡn̩ˌpʁɛsə] ⓘ) is a pejorative and disparaging political epithet used largely for the printed press and the mass media at large.

The Nazis adopted the term for their propaganda against the Jewish, communist, and later the foreign press. In 1922 Adolf Hitler used the accusation of the "lying press" for the Marxist press.[citation needed] In the Mein Kampf chapter on war propaganda, he described what he saw as the extraordinary effect of enemy propaganda in the First World War. He criticized German propaganda as ineffective and called for 'better' propaganda, which, allegedly like that of the English, French or Americans, was to be oriented towards psychological effectiveness.[6] Accusations of "lying" against domestic journalism can be found in his speeches, for example against the "social democratic press", Jewish liberals, etc.

Hermann Göring used the expression on 23 March 1933 in his speech during the debate on the Enabling Act of 1933 in the Reichstag.[8] In the same speech he denied attacks on Jewish shops and desecrations of synagogues and Jewish cemeteries.

In December 1937, Manfred Pechau summarized parts of his dissertation ("National Socialism and German Language", Greifswald 1935) in the National Socialist monthly and listed synonyms for what he called "Jewish-Marxist lying press", including "Jewish journals".[9] The party's official educational and speaker information material, published in 1938 by the Reich Propaganda Management of the NSDAP, includes comments on the anti-Semitic November pogroms in 1938 by foreign media as reactions of the "propaganda and lying press" which allegedly represented a new field of slander against the Reich.[10]

In several speeches by Joseph Goebbels from the first half of 1939, "Lügenpresse" is used to characterize the media abroad, especially in the future World War II opponents, the United States, France, and Great Britain.[11] At this point in time, the German domestic press had been "synchronized" (controlled) and a critical domestic press that the National Socialists referred to as the "Lügenpresse" no longer existed. The Nazi propaganda reacted to the false report of Max Schmeling's death with an attack on the "foreign lying press".[12] There were also variations in this terminology; the Völkischer Beobachter, for example, referred to the "emigrant and international lying press" to deny reports about the poor health of the imprisoned Carl von Ossietzky, [13] and in 1932, it rejected criticism of Rosenberg using the formula "Marxist lying press".[14]

In 1942, Baldur von Schirach described the French journalist Geneviève Tabouis, who published reports on the expansion plans of National Socialism, as "the embodiment of this nifty lying press that was available to anyone who knew how to pay"; in the same context he claimed that "90 percent of all Paris newspapers" were under "Jewish influence" and that the newspaper editorial offices were staffed by "over 70 percent" Jews.[15]

The expression was also used in speeches at carnival events that were used to bolster the party.[16]

After the National Socialist Condor Legion bombed the city of Guernica during the Spanish Civil War and this led to appalled reactions in the world, General Franco's propaganda accused the "Jewish lying press" of disinformation, claiming that this was a press maneuver by the Bolsheviks; this happened in harmony with the Nazi propaganda.[17][18]

In 1948, Walter Hagemann analyzed how the Nazi press used the accusation of the "lying press" against the foreign press. He observed that readers should be made aware of how vigilant and reliable German journalism and politics are on this point. The rejection of the Allied "horror reports" as products of the "Jewish journal" was part of this Nazi strategy.[19]

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah well that's just from Wikipedia which is a lefty non source that anyone can edit!

-Republicans probably

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[–] miseducator@lemmy.world 32 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Musk claims he's targeted for character assassination

Seem to remember him character assassinating a dude who helped save some Thai children a decade or so ago, except that was false and him acting real Nazi makes me think he prolly a real Nazi.

[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Also remember, every accusation from these people is an admission.

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 3 points 13 hours ago

In case anyone has forgotten, the specific character assassination was: "Elon Musk calls British diver in Thai cave rescue 'pedo' in baseless attack" (Guardian Website).

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 39 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Nazi works, but if he'd prefer something else, "technofascist" and "neo-feudalist" are both arguably even more accurate.

Or we could go a different way - "psychopathic douchebag" has a nice ring to it, or maybe "delusional fuckhead."

[–] TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca 33 points 22 hours ago

He behaves like a Nazi so he's a Nazi. And clearly calling him that is getting under his skin, so it's working. I don't think using a different word will have the same effect. Heck, he might even latch onto neo-feudalist thinking it's cool or something.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, Nazi is too 1930's. Technofascist, that's what Elon Musk is.

[–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

interesting note: a flavor of techno fascism actually started in the 30s, it was called Technocracy, Inc.

The technocracy movement was a social movement active in the United States and Canada in the 1930s which favored technocracy as a system of government over representative democracy [...] a California engineer, invented the word technocracy in 1919 to describe "the rule of the people made effective through the agency of their servants, the scientists and engineers"

here's an article explaining how Musk, Thiel, and Andreessen (and other tech billionaires) have adopted a similar philosophy with the "Charter Cities" ancap utopianism they're working to replace democracy with.

A 1930s movement wanted to merge the US, Canada and Greenland. Here’s why it has modern resonances

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[–] sircac@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

...without specifying in which sense exactly, like, he is not precisely allegiant to Adolf

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 26 points 21 hours ago

Just have the balls to admit it you bloated sack of shit.

[–] Emil_Zatopek1982@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

He prefers facist.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Musk claims he's targeted for character assassination

Only character?

[–] MonkeMischief 1 points 15 hours ago

How can one's character even be assassinated after one has murdered it themselves live in front of billions?

[–] LetmeLemmy@hilariouschaos.com 26 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Everyone saw his Hitler salute.

Many people read his leaked 4Chan comments saying how great hitler was.

Fuck him and his Nazi ass car company.

[–] MonkeMischief 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Many people read his leaked 4Chan comments saying how great hitler was

Whoody wat now??? I feel like this needs to be more publicized, like posted everywhere right alongside his little saluting stunt.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

There's absolutely nothing actually proving it's him. It's as provably him, as I am Ryan Reynolds. Making Deadpool 3 was pretty amazing though!

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[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 2 points 19 hours ago

His 2 back to back hitler salutes.

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 21 hours ago

If someone destroys your reputation with lies, that is character assassination.

If your reputation is destroyed by people stating facts, you're just getting your comeuppance.

[–] don@lemm.ee 20 points 22 hours ago

It’s outrageous for him to claim it’s outrageous for us to properly identify him as Nazi, his being Nazi and all.

[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 18 points 22 hours ago

Sieg Heiling Space Karen Elon Musk, to be certain, is a Nazi.

It would appear her snowflake feelings are hurt, because we're holding her accountable for her Sieg Heil salutes.

But she brought that on to herself.

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago
[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

If he cheers on the neo Nazis, salutes like a Nazi, and tries to set up a government program to start gathering information about everyone (like Nazis did), he must be a duck!

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Where have I seen this lower face before? Ughhh... I can't quite put my finger on it.

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Sometimes when 2000 AD's fascist satire character Judge Dredd was drawn by certain artists, his lower face was a fucked up lumpy mess.

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