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[–] TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee 46 points 1 day ago (6 children)

A bit of topic, but it pains me to see how powerful high end phones got. Like most people just use them to text and scroll social media. Why do people spend that much money?!

[–] orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There are real video games for phones now, and I'm pretty sure emulation is up to at least on the gamecube era. Slap a controller on it and a phone is pretty much just a hyper-powered gameboy advance.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 2 points 3 hours ago

I can totally emulate PS2 and some Switch games on my phone, but never really use the power

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

theres also isnt much difference, so the higher end , aka flagship ones are slightly better than the previous editions. no need to spend 800-1k+, i bought a OPR12 instead. pixels tries to justify thier flagship prices with thier useless AI chips.

[–] tobz619@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (5 children)

If anything, it makes me wonder why we don't have more small dedicated handheld gaming devices that aren't phones or pseudocomputers and don't cost a bomb.

Like a £220 PSP/GBA/DS-like device with decent first-party support would be really nice for me imo

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 14 minutes ago

You can buy handhelds for like $100 that have basically every console game up to and including ps2/ds preloaded. What else would you need?

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world -1 points 14 hours ago

There are plenty handhelds in all shapes and sizes in that price range for exactly this. How many more do we need?

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because we already have phones.

The solution is to release games for phones that require a controller, but most companies aren't willing to be the first ones to do it.

[–] Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm probably part of the problem. I've never used a controller except a few times at friends' houses. I grew up with Nintendo DS, Wii, PC, and smartphone games. I don't want to ever have to pick up a controller.

[–] pory@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

With a phone, there's a type of controller that wraps around the phone, turning it into a Switch form factor. That's probably the middle ground between atrocious touchscreen d-pads (or only playing games that actually work well with touch controls) versus lugging around a Dualsense and some mount contraption or kickstanding your phone on a surface.

[–] Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

I've never had trouble with or resented touch screen D-pads ^^; again I am part of the problem I suppose, because it seems by your post that most people hate the things I'm genuinely satisfied with. I hope the general controller-liking population gets things to serve their needs too, though. Thanks for providing the information for what I'm assuming is the majority.

[–] 7arakun@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The Switch Lite is exactly this. $200 handheld that runs first party games. There are android handhelds like the Retroid pocket 5 as well.

A Steam Deck Lite would be incredible. Small, cheap, linux-based, and powerful enough to run indie games and some light 3D. I think that form factor basically needs an arm cpu though.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Or just use a phone that's a couple years old

[–] aegis_sum@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I ended up buying a cheap controller that clamps to my phone and run emulators. It works way better than I ever expected.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 6 points 1 day ago

Why do people spend that much money?!

Conditioning. They have more money so they spend it proportionally.

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who doesn't want to spend £50+ a month to doom scroll...

Yeah, I pay like $15/month to doom scroll.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Around the same as the Steam Deck when portable, but with access to significantly better upscaling.

Such a shame FSR looks so terrible, the Steam Deck would otherwise hold up much better against it.

I'm still not going to buy one and only use my Deck though.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So there really is no excuse for the new Pokemon games to look so terrible.

[–] bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There never was a good excuse other than greed and the fact that everyone keeps blindly throwing their money at them anyway.

[–] Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a !pokemon@lemm.ee fan I didn't buy for these reasons but that doesn't stop hordes of parents or certain fans from buying anyways. If they're happy, I guess… meanwhile I'll be fine as long as they don't go after ROM hacks.

[–] fishy 2 points 20 hours ago

Rom hacks can be so good, but why can't we move past hm's??

[–] fishy 1 points 20 hours ago

From what I've heard a lot of the same og programmers and animators from the game boy days are still in charge of making the games and they don't want a large team. They also don't want to have to work really hard or learn new skills, so basically all the work falls to inexperienced people being led by people with incredibly dated skills. Nintendo still rakes in tons of money so they don't see the need to interject.

[–] hitagi@ani.social 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Still the best engineered bang for your Buck/power draw card ever created in my eyes. Power draw of a lightbulb and I put it side by side with my freinds Xbox one at release and beat its performance.

I wish companies stayed on that track.

Yup, that's what I'm using in my NAS for basic transcoding. Works great!

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wish companies stayed on that track.

Welcome to a world of 1000W PSUs :(

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago

1000W does sound big enough for a 5090, but what about the other computer components?

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s like we’re returning to the early 00s lol. I used to rock a 450w psu in my 750ti build. :( granted I use a 650w today but my rx580 SND Ryzen 5 1500x is getting dated when it comes to new releases.

This is the first year I really don’t meeet requirements. Don’t know what to do with this market lol

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The pc market has taken a very consumerist turn and it's actually pretty disgusting. Sad times.

[–] Zanshi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'm in the same boat, haven't really found anything good to upgrade to that doesn't cost me a kidney.

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People who buy a Switch 2 are not the same people who care about this stuff.

[–] Donut@piefed.social 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The majority perhaps, but there's still folks who are interested in the tech side of things.

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Ok yeah that's fair. Most people.

[–] Aeonx21@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Not sure why your down voted.

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I love how my boy 750ti is in there. My first real gpu and my favorite because it was a time when NVIDIA was showing interest in getting the most bang out of lower power draw. That went out the window

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Obligatory fuck Nintendo, and shame anyone buying their stuff anymore.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

If you're gonna post spam, at least spell it right.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yuck, 1/4th the performance of a 3060?

I already have a 3060 laptop lmao. You can buy a 4070 lenovo laptop at walmart for $1k.

And nintendo wants to start charging $80 for games? On top of paying an extra subscription to use our own internet? Yeah, fuck that.

Sail the high seas. Your wallet and your dignity will be better off for it.