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[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

I think a lot of people here are not taking into account the massive amounts of voter disenfranchisement that allowed Trump to win. In one Texas city 100k black voters were struck off the rolls, which would've carried Texas for Harris. In total there were almost 4,5 million legitimate voters who were struck from the rolls or whose votes were simply tossed out, mainly in swing states and almost exclusively for people of color. Harris lost by 3 million votes. 80% of those 4,5M votes would have gone to her and the dems.

Exit polls were pointing towards a Dem victory and they might have even carried both houses if not for the massive voter disenfranchisement. This is the election that was blatantly stolen and it really surprises me so few people in the US even know about it, let alone are outraged by it.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 29 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We do not have a left wing and right wing in the US. We have a center-right party, the Democrats; and we have the republicans. Any actual left wing ideas are crushed by the billionaires that own the country

[–] crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org 9 points 10 hours ago

This is so true in so many countries. Look at the UK, I wouldn't call today's Labour party centre left by many measures anymore.

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 70 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Dude. They voted for a fuckin Nazi over her. Let's not do this again.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 9 points 8 hours ago

tbf they would've voted for the nazi over anyone

[–] Subnet64@lemmy.world 48 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

When it looked like she was losing, she just rolled over without any fight. The others side would have fought long and hard. Not her. Just said "Oh, well. That's it then". Then she disappeared. Done with her.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 6 points 8 hours ago

fight what? the election result?

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Has anyone even asked her where the fuck she went? What could possibly have been more important than resistance against fascism?

[–] DaTingGoBrrr@lemm.ee -1 points 8 hours ago

The Democrats are the same as GOP politicaly but less extreme. The USA doesn't have any real left leaning parties.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 9 points 14 hours ago

Exfuckingzactly

[–] Vraylle@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

People are mad enough they'll vote for anyone that isn't Trump or a Trump accessory. DNC will take that as vindication that the Harris approach was correct, and will double/triple-down on it for years. Then find some subgroup of lefties to blame when they lose again in another 2-4 years.

It's the cirrrrrrcle of....stupidity.

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 8 hours ago

Thats literally what everyone thought about hillary and about kamala the first time. I wouldnt bet on people's dislike of trump who at least managed to win twice (somehow) to vote in kamala who has literally neve come close to winning.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

You still believe we'll have a free and fair election in three years?

[–] RighteousAnger@lemm.ee 10 points 13 hours ago

The Dems should go even fuller Nazi than the Republicans or they'll never get elected again!

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

She won't survive primaries. I wouldn't even worry about this lol.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 20 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume there will be primaries, since those haven’t been conducted in good faith since 2008.

[–] matdave@lemmy.ml 11 points 14 hours ago

Yeah. Last year the person who won appeared in one debate, lost, and refused to debate again. I don't really understand what the election is after that mess.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

I've worried about too many things that have happened recently that I was previously told not to worry about.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm just thinking back to 2016 when someone got the idea that Joe Biden should run. And somehow nobody could stop it.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

... But he did run and he did win?

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 13 points 15 hours ago

Another political campaign of Zionist sympathies no matter what anyone says or whether or not it will cost them the election?

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 14 hours ago

This made me mutter "fuck" upon reading the headline. Fuck you DNC! Give the people what they want and stop cramming your shitty candidates down our collective throats!

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 11 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

America is too racist and sexist to vote for her. Don't get me wrong, trump cheated, but he might not have needed to and those rigged systems are still in place.

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 37 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I voted for her. I fucking hate her. It has nothing to with her vagina or melanin. She is another corporate elite that will, at the absolute best, change nothing. The democratic party is actively passifying the masses with these barely not fascist candidates so that their pals at the RNC don't have to worry too much about what happens if the lose.

The two party system is a myth

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

But you voted for her, there were a lot of people that sat out. She would be way better than trump in every way, even Palestine. Would she have floated the idea of making Palestine a luxury vacation spot after kicking all of the Palestinians out? No, she wouldn't. That is the only issue that could hold even a little bit of water, and it's still no contest. If you didn't vote or voted for trump, you're a racist at the very least, and probably sexist too.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

This is a pretty dumb take.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 12 points 14 hours ago

Genocidal corporate shill has no race nor gender.

Still voted for her above the literal Nazi traitor scum, but let’s not ascribe unwarranted unsavory qualities to the voters. If the democrats had any interest in democracy and held a real contested primary (with or without Biden’s participation), we could have chosen a far better candidate to beat Trump.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 4 points 11 hours ago

The fact that you think she lost simply because of her gender or ethnicity is why the democrats lost in general. The kind of people who care about that were never going to vote Democrat anyway.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 9 points 14 hours ago

Footguns are the only guns mainstream democrats wholeheartedly support.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world -5 points 14 hours ago

How many "final nail in the coffin" will it take for dem voters to realize this party is a lost cause? Just a puppet party to display a facade of democracy and "choice" in this government.

Vote 3rd party, cause dems aren't winning anyways.