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I am aware of

  • Sea-lioning
  • Gaslighting
  • Gish-Galloping
  • Dogpiling

I want to know I theres any others I'm not aware of

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[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

One I see people use frequently and I’m not sure they realize it’s a bad argument is the fallacy of relative privation.

“X is bad. We should do something to fix X.”

“Y is so much worse. I can’t believe you want to fix X when we need to fix Y.”

Both X and Y can be bad and need to be fixed. Fixing one doesn’t preclude fixing the other.

An alternate form of this is:

“A is bad”

“B is worse, so A is fine.”

[–] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

After an event happens, many people convince themselves they saw it coming all along even if they had no idea.

Everyone is an expert on everything... Worse now because of LLMs

Phrasing something as protecting children... The ultimate form of manipulation

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Is there a name for the thing where you'll make an argument with like 3 distinct points supporting it, and the other person will attack only one, and claim the whole thing is in their favor?

Like, "You can't cast two leveled spells in a turn, and you're silenced, and you're out of spell slots, so you can't cast another fireball"

"No, I have another spell slot from my ring. Fireball time!"

[–] skye@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago

cherry picking

[–] anachrohack@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

Whataboutism

"Russia invaded ukraine! Putin must be held accountable!"

"Yeah well what about Iraq, 2003???"

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 18 hours ago

Check out Rational Wiki's page on logical fallacies https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Logical_fallacy

[–] Grappling7155@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Innuendo studios has a nice series of videos on this on YouTube

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 7 points 14 hours ago

I was going to recommend this very thing.

The Alt-Right Playbook

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago

Any logical falacy

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

You forget the most common one of all, lying.

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[–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 20 points 1 day ago

"Thought-terminating clichés"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A9

Also... I don't think it has a name, but dubiously claiming any of these examples in an argument. Maybe it'd just be called "deflection".

I've seen so many valid arguments shutdown as whataboutism, sealioning, concern trolling when they were valid arguments. It's just as much bullshit as actually doing any of those things.

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