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[–] RedSnt@feddit.dk 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This might be acceptable for an office drone, but people who do physical labor still get worn down at the same pace as before.

Btw. the retirement age for politicians? 60. They didn't raise their own for some reason. Not that I'd want a situation like the US congress, bunch of dinosaurs, but kick 'em out at 60, then get to work from 60 to 70 like everyone else.

[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago

Speaking as an office drone, I dont think I can keep it up for that many decades. It may not be physical labor but it takes a different toll on a person

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Boomers destroyed this planet, thinking they’d die long before suffering the consequences. Alas, here are some of those consequences now.

Yes but they are busy passing on the burden to future generations.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Tried that in Australia and too much push back from blue collar unions. Currently at 67, was 65.

You can take your private retirment funds (Superannuation) from age 60 though, just not get a government pension until 67. Our government pension is means tested though so everyone tries their best to be faux poor to claim it.

Our state pension is predicatd on you owing a house, mortgage free, if you dont you get a little more but rents are ridiculous. Apparelty this is all so well loved we keep doing the same thing and electing the same politcans to make sure it gets worse. I stepped off this treadmill at 35 amd quit work and am now 58.

When the aged pension was first introduced , at age 65 in Aus, most people drooped off at age 67. Now they're into the mid 80s and millennials are paying for this, when they can't afford a house and have massive education loans as well.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

When the aged pension was first introduced , at age 65 in Aus, most people drooped off at age 67. Now they're into the mid 80s

That's the issue and that's why pension age must go up irrespectively if people like it or not. It is either this or a constant population increase to be able to support pensioners.

[–] altphoto 1 points 2 days ago

Just call it "death" age and make it 75. If you've not dead yet you're forced to take a pill for that. That sounds so peachy over having to live without healthcare and money and a place to live.