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    [–] RichieRich@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago

    AIX is not dead yet.

    [–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    SCO died by self inflicted gunshot wounds.

    [–] tauisgod@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    Unfortunately, I have a very large client whose core business app runs on SCO still. They're coming up on year 10 on their migration attempt.

    [–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

    Let me guess. A aged purpose built program used for something like inventory and accounting. Built with something like cobol or pascel. With a set of specific feature set that they are unable to or unwilling to pay for a updated rewrite?

    [–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago

    I use hpux everyday. Mostly it still runs what it needs to run and the hardware for the most part is a tank so you don't have to think about it.

    When it breaks it's the most infuriating thing in the world. All the hardware is bespoke and obsolete, old unix is maddening coming from modern Linux, it's a nightmare but kind of fun at the same time. My only hope that HP will open source it at the end of the year.

    [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    There are a lot of hobby Unix-like OS's however. I don't see the point in most of them, but still.

    You also forgot macOS. It's a shitty "UNIX-certified" OS though.

    [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 8 points 20 hours ago

    Its a BSD derivat tho.

    [–] frezik@midwest.social 15 points 1 day ago

    In a sense, NextStep is the only one of the old Unix vendors to still have a significant install base.

    [–] yistdaj@pawb.social 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    While much of the Unix family has died, (especially in the System V family) there is an old one surviving and a few new additions being added.

    Solaris is still alive, and from it was forked illumos. Meanwhile BSD has spawned its own family made up of FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, and DragonFlyBSD, but also MacOS and Playstation. Other systems that appeared without any prior history like Linux include Redox OS and SerenityOS.

    With that being said, the Unix family has noticeably shrunk, and the System V family is very much in danger of going extinct, with only the Solaris branch looking like it will survive the next year. If the System V family goes extinct, it would make the BSD family the only surviving branch descended from the original Unix.

    [–] yistdaj@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Oh, and Minix still exists.

    [–] tauisgod@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

    If you have an Intel based system with AMT, you're running minix on a 486 and probably don't know it.

    I watch a lot of videos to this day from Bryan Cantrill (Oxide computer) and he's got some wild stories about the forking of illumos and how difficult it was to essentially "save" Solaris. His company uses their own illumos based distro called heliOS on their oxide computer rack.

    [–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    SCO crashed and burned in part because they tried to sue multiple Linux providers claiming that they owned all the rights to certain pieces of code that they'd contractually leased from IBM, and that IBM giving code to Linux distributors violated the terms of their agreement with IBM. It was a lawsuit that dragged on for over a decade and a half--I think that it's still going--and it's bled SCO of tens of millions of dollars ,esp. since they've lost nearly every single claim they've made.

    [–] modeler@lemmy.world 100 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    Linux was not muscled like that in 1991 - it's first, barebones kernel was released in September of that year.

    I remember installing Linux on a 90MHz 486 in the mid 90s and it barely ran X server with a simple window manager. And if the machine was turned off while Linux was running, you might not be able to boot again.

    Linux now, however, is unrecognizeably better.

    [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

    Linux back then was just minix with more packages like x.

    The kernel was absolute bedlam back then.

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I remember someone here made a detailed list of how lots of the early linux FOSS stuff was essentially ripoff of unix software lol. I think XFCE was originally a knockoff of CDE or something with XForms. Now it's the de facto performance DE and the default on Kali.

    [–] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 day ago

    KDE’s name was a direct rip off of CDE’s name

    [–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 day ago

    XFCE's old panel was a distinct mimic of CDE's. I liked it..

    But now CDE is open source and NsCDE gives you the same look with a highly customised fvwm config if you don't want to stick to the Motif universe.

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

    Irix is missing. It was quite cool at the time. (Well, its desktop was).

    [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

    SerenityOS has some relevance and its new.

    [–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

    Out of all those I only ever used Solaris and the most polite thing I can say is: I have no nostalgia for that time.

    [–] shifty@leminal.space 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Redox OS is a little baby sprout of grass on the very right

    [–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

    Just wait for Hurd!
    Hurd will kick all those little asses, you'll see, whenever it comes out!
    And then GNU will be really independent and superior!
    Can just be like a few years now!

    Edit: I shouldn't type anymore today ...

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    [–] Greg@lemmy.ca 70 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    I liked OpenSolaris, you could order a free CD from their website and they’d post it, even internationally.

    [–] bazzett@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I still have one of those! πŸ˜†

    Didn't use it too much, tho. Never installed it on bare metal, only in a VM, and back in those days I was in my distro-hopping phase (I was discovering Arch), so I tested it and quickly forgot about it.

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    [–] ferrule@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

    they sent us a big box of CDs to the CS department an uni. ran it as a daily driver for a semester.

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    [–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I spent so much time working with Solaris, in a weird way I kinda miss it

    [–] Ramenator@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

    You can still run Illumos/OpenIndiana, driver support will be spotty though

    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    I used Solaris today. I've never been on BSD.

    If you lament the death of AT&T Unix, blame IBM.

    [–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago

    Weirdly, it stops there for a looooooooooong time

    [–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 day ago

    Actually Solaris is still squirming while the first shovels of dirt are being heaped on.

    [–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)
    [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Which is BSD with a paint job and kiddy gloves

    [–] atthecoast@feddit.nl 9 points 1 day ago

    Well there are BSD components in there, but much of the kernel comes from Mach.

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