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Realtek's $10 tiny 10GbE network adapter is coming to motherboards later this year
(www.tomshardware.com)
This is going to be a huge help for home video editors.
this post was submitted on 23 May 2025
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I recently started using USB 3.2 2x2 (20Gbps) and it's orgasmic experience to what I had before
but home Internet is still stuck at Gigabit speeds.... and only in some cases are they maybe letting you go to 2 Gb. Wasn't there that post floating around lemmy a while ago about how China can potentially give everyone like 5Gb for home or something? Can't find it now but swore it was here....
I think 10GbE is more intended for local applications than for internet. Say, you have a NAS with a RAID array of nvme drives for video editing purposes that you want to access from a few workstations.
Even the other day I was quite happy to have 2.5GbE when I installed my new gaming PC, and steam was able to pull all my games directly from my old computer rather than downloading them over the internet again.
Anyway, LAN speeds have always been an order of magnitude higher than common internet speeds, so I don't see the issue.
Yes, this is the chicken and egg logic we have been served for the last 25 years that we have spent locked at 1 gigabit. This is because commercial players still had money left to milk to 10GBe deployments and 25 years later it it becoming obsolete in these environment. So we can have the free upgrade to 10GBe as the commercial deployments switch to 25, 40 and 100 GBe.
The thing manufacturer want to avoid collectively is product line cannibalization. And that means making sure that 10GBe was not the port you find on every random computer.
Of course, with the cloudification of general purpose computing. Most people in their homes just need a browser and streaming desktop client. So there could be other forces at play at preventing high speed LAN proliferation.
Imagine if a company could just make a 100$ nvme drive you can connect into your home router and it "just working". No cloud, no serves, no redirect. It opens the port, update IP dns client, update certificates, works everywhere.
10 Gb connections are widely available in Europe for very reasonable prices.
The China article was true that they launched the service, but bullshit they are the fastest.
Plenty of other countries are running 10GB and faster services you can get to your home.
Sweden for example
Same in Norway, many providers have been offering 10Gb for a while now.
That depends on where you live. I could get 10 Gbit/s WAN if I wanted to pay the subscription for that but 500 Mbit/s is enough.
Also 10 Gbit/s is mainly useful for LAN. Like connecting to a NAS.
I don't disagree with that. There is almost no benefit to having residential Internet go beyond even 2Gb. Most people don't realize that or are not shown why and so immediately figure that a bigger number means better experience. I use a 10Mb LAN connection to my Giagabit router at home and the only time I really suffer is when downloading huge files but I end up doing so in the background anyway...
I use a 10Mb LAN connection to my Giagabit router
Is that a 10BASE-T connect over two pairs of twisted pair? But even then you'd naively expect Fast Ethernet 100 Mb/s at least. I'm curious what it's only 10, can you tell us?
I'm afraid I use PoE due to lack of cabling at current residence and me being lazy and not buying a WiFi adapter for my desktop PC even though that would probably solve that problem... I'm not high maintenance enough to purchase it tbh. 😂
Oh, my condolences. I used to have to rely on Powerline too.
I have so many questions about this too.. Commenting to come back later for the answer.
PoE
Yeah, Im excited about the cards but getting a 1GB switch with a 10g uplink was expensive... 10g switches are... a lot.
ATT Fiber offers 5G for residential, though I've seen people posting speedtests of 10G speeds which I'm not sure how they got because it was on the DIY fiber ONT discord lol
About damn time. We got a boost every few years from 10 to 100 to 1000. Then we just... Stopped. Stagnated. It's understandable why, for a good long time one gigabit was all anybody needed, 100 MByte/sec is pretty good even for a NAS.
Of course then fiber ISPs got in the game, now in a lot of places you can buy 7-8gbps as a consumer product. And even multi-gig, which was supposed to 'fix' this, really ended up being insufficient. You could make a salad argument that multi gig was a waste of time and we should have just started moving to 10 gig.
Unfortunately, 10 gig switches still carry a significant premium. But this will start to shake that up. Sooner the better.
100MB/s are frustrating for a NAS. SSDs have been common for a decade, and the old spinning rust storage in my NAS is still faster than the network can handle?
Even HDDs can max a 100mbit connection. UHD Blurray is something like 80-150mbit/a.
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Realtek are monsters of semiconductor creation.
Destroyed
- sound card industry
- network card industry
What's next?
If only they were also monsters of incrementing the pcie device id when their chip revision breaks compatibility.
So you don't spend forever trying to Google on your phone or other laptop that you have to pull and rebuild the latest kernel, without an internet connection, because only that one knows that revision K needs power management set before the link will come up.
Ohh I don't think they make superior products they just destroy entire sections of the semiconductor industry through brute force. I think creative Labs and turtle Beach made superior sound dsp's. I think Intel still reigns supreme in Ethernet chips.
Creative labs made shit audio chips, at least post isa, they never figured out pci at all. Haven't forgiven them for killing aureal either.
Turtle beach was quality, but overpriced and they completely focused on the pro market after a while, ignoring gaming.
Realtek makes garbage, I always bypass it with a good USB DAC (fiio usually) because the mobo manufacturers always route lines so it buzzed when the GPU started using power.
You are right that they killed the market, but only for people who don't care, and you can pick up a banging used mellanox for cheap that gives you excellent sriov.
Literally anyone else could have done this. They all chose not to. So fuck them.
I think they're making a bit of a joke here. It's just progress.
Oh please do printer interface.
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It's impressive that they got the power consumption down to less than 2 watts. I think this is the first 10GBASE-T NIC I've seen that doesn't have a heatsink on it.
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Excellent!
Now if we can only teach realtek how pci device id's work, so they don't use revision id's to control power management, and links silently don't come up if your kernel driver doesn't support it properly.
I know this was a decade ago, but yeah, I'm still pretty damn pissed.
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