If you eat basically any form of meat, I have some bad news for you...
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I do give deer hunting a pass because they're overpopulated in places (because humans wiped out their native predators).
Feel free to try and change my mind so I can wipe that off my ever-shrinking personal "ethically ok to eat meats" list. For all I know this is one of those lies I was raised with that I've not examined since childhood. Edit: context is in Kentucky, USA 20 years ago. I don't know about deer populations elsewhere and elsewhen.
Former vegan, current pescatarian here.
Dont stop hunting, please. Humans did a phenomenal job of ensuring a required hunting season for deer by wiping out all the natural predators, now without them we have to have culls. If you participate in said culls, PLEASE eat the meat, use the pelt, give the antlers to your dog. We've forced ourselves into a position where some of us MUST take up the mantle of predator. If you choose to, just be responsible with the carcass so it didn't die for no good reason.
Edit: accidentally lied, I'm not a vegetarian I'm a pescatarian who outside of her 6 shrimp a week is vegan.
To add a wrinkle: there's now "farmed deer". It's supposedly more environmentally friendly than farmed cow, but I don't like it because •vague feelings I've not fully examined•.
So don't assume any venison you find in the grocery store was hunted.
Wow, thanks, I hate it!
Vague feelings? I think your feelings are pretty spot-on, farming an animal whose population is already excessive in the wild is bizarre.
Wild deer are more environmentally friendly than farmed deer.
The feelings are vague because I can't put them confidently into words, but your explanation resonates.
Farmed cervids are why CWD (Chronic Wasting Disease) is a thing. It's a prion disease. Farmed venison has a high probability of being CWD positive.
It's called a high fence operation. Rich fucks actually pay for a canned hunt inside the fence so they get a big antlered wall hanger.
Myself and my family like to eat does. Curbs population faster and tends to be better meat. We live in a county that is overpopulated with white tail.
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Only time I've eaten meat in the past ~30 years was when I ate some invasive fish that had been caught in a killathon to restore native habitat. Not that it's my role to "give you a pass," but I certainly do in this case!
Apparently there's spear fisherfolk in Florida that kill invasive lionfish and provide them to local restaurants. I'm all for killing and eating invasive species.
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There's whale meat in my steak!?
Or drink milk. Vegetarians don't get a pass.
I only drink polar bear milk. I find the chalky cod liver oil taste delightful.
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This is not an isolated issue. This is how we treat animals and other humans (regarding the harpooning, we only do it figuratively to other humans, not literally).
Go vegan.
We do it literally to other humans, look Gaza or South Sudan
You're right. Probably should be mostly figuratively to humans, but also literally. And we also do it figuratively to the whales by destroying and polluting the ocean ecosystems.
People's morality about slaughtering meat is going to flip so hard once we get affordable lab grown meat, future generations will think of us as utter savages. But until then I don't think it's going to happen at scale
I doubt, it's going to make any sudden jumps. We have various vegan meat alternatives already, which are good, and you still have plenty people that feel personally attacked by the existence of morals, because they base their personality on eating dead animals.
Maybe that's because most of the vegan meat alternatives don't taste like what they're trying to replace, have a weird texture, or cause horrible gas/stomach problems.
We haven't cracked a good meat substitute yet, at least not for people that enjoy the real thing. We're close, but we're just not there yet.
I think it's a real shame too. I've had some fantastic veggie/potato burger. You gotta drop all pretense of the patty being meat, and instead just focus on making it tasty.
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Crazy that some seem to suggest you can't care about whales heading towards extinction without being a level 6 Vegan.
Yup. I’m very opposed to whaling - they’re magnificent creatures - but I’m not giving up my hamburger any time soon.
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Whales are the farmers of the sea. They fertilize the open oceans and produce more food than they eat. Especially the biggest ones, like the fin whales Japan has decided to hunt again. So if you like sea food, maybe don't kill the whales.
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I mean yes, but what do you think happens to regular fish
Many of us are against that too. Whales just happen to be exceedingly intelligent and capable of forming powerful emotional bonds
Farm animals have it even worse
Tried making a joke here before reading more about it and now I regret the joke so I edited this out.
Well usually it's more injure the child so mom stays close then murder both.
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