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[–] Ascrod@midwest.social 7 points 1 hour ago

So peacefully protesting the current administration is a rebellion, but storming the fucking capitol to stop an election is an act of heroism, eh?

[–] Yeldarb12@toast.ooo 35 points 15 hours ago

It only took 4 months for Trump to send the military against US citizens.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago

My respect for most soldiers is not high to begin with, but anyone that falls in line and illegally invades California is a terrorist. It's illegal to follow an illegal order.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 29 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Once you get troops on the streets, it’s only a matter of time before it goes bad. Some kid throws a stone, next minute there’s houses on fire and people getting killed.

There's a chapter of Nights Watch, by Terry Pratchett, that I wish was mandatory for every cop and soldier. There was a bit about "restoring the peace by any means" that shock me.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

Most of us that swore the oath actually meant it, and understand precisely why the Posse Comitatus Act was created. The trouble arises when shitbag civilian leaders get it onto their heads that because we have the most powerful military ever, it can be used to solve any problem. Most of the vets I know are full on liberal and respect the “leave me alone and I leave you alone” mindset, but some are also supporters of the ones who claim to be strong even if it’s all clearly false bravado. Things are going to get very messy if one officer gives orders to fire and another countermands it.

GNU Sir Terry

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

About to finish Discworld for the third time and Nights Watch may be the best of all 41 books.

“You took an oath to uphold the law and defend the citizens without fear or favor," said Vimes. "And to protect the innocent. That's all they put in. Maybe they thought those were the important things. Nothing in there about orders, even from me. You're an officer of the law, not a soldier of the government.”

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think I had the awful luck of reading Mort and Nights Watch before any other series book, and they are by far my favorites to this day. Still many to read, and many I greatly enjoyed, but those two are something else for me.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Love the Watch but all the books involving the witches are great as well

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 42 points 19 hours ago

It’s interesting that Trump seems to want to start a civil war while serving all of Russia’s other interests like turning Ukraine into the bad guy and crippling our national cybersecurity.

Traitorous, even.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 17 hours ago

Well, that’s illegal.

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemm.ee 47 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

This one is going to be tough to defend in court when it gets there

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 6 points 14 hours ago

This ends in death, not court. I don't say that to encourage violence but no one in this administration is going to allow a court out judge to stop them.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 26 points 20 hours ago

This isn't going to get decided in a court.

[–] h4x0r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 20 hours ago

 In addition, the Secretary of Defense may employ any other members of the regular Armed Forces as necessary to augment and support the protection of Federal functions and property in any number determined appropriate in his discretion.

[–] HistoryPug@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago

Get your ammo and supplies stocked.