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This was not inevitable. This is a war Israel chose. It could have been prevented. Diplomatic talks were ongoing when the bombers took off for Iran. Israel’s continuing, illegal, unjustified airstrikes are unlikely to achieve their stated aim – permanently ending Tehran’s presumed efforts to build nuclear weapons – and may accelerate it. They must stop now. Likewise, Iran must halt its retaliation immediately and drop its escalatory threats to attack US and UK bases.

This conflict is not limited, as was the case last year, to tit-for-tat exchanges and “precision strikes” on a narrow range of military targets. It’s reached a wholly different level. Potentially nothing is off the table. Civilians are being killed on both sides. Leaders are targets. The rhetoric is out of control. With Israel fighting on several fronts, and Iran’s battered regime backed against a wall, the Middle East is closer than ever to a disastrous conflagration.

Reasons can always be found to go to war. The roots of major conflicts often reach back decades – and this is true of the Israel-Iran vendetta, which dates to the 1979 Islamic revolution. The so-called “shadow war” between the two intensified in recent years. Yet all-out conflict had been avoided, until now. So who is principally to blame for this sudden, unprecedented explosion?

Answer: three angry old men whose behaviour raises serious doubts about their judgment, common sense, motives and even their sanity.

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[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 2 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 51 minutes ago)

you know it's bad when western MSM is both-siding it

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

What an insanely stupid article. Israel bombs Iran completely unprovoked. Khamenei and Iran are incredibly responsible and measured in their response. Meanwhile Israel is flailing around like a wild bully with their American big brother behind its back, threatening Iran that they are not allowed to strike back

And the liberals from TheGuardian write a both sides article about it as if all parties share blame.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Great man theory nonsense. Was Netanyahu in power during the Sabra and Shatila massacre? During the Nakba? During the June 1967 war? Was Trump president when the US invaded Iraq? Was he president when the US sent billions of dollars in military aid to Israel to commit their genocide with? It's the countries, not the leaders. They're just the personification of a system. You could shoot each of these men in the head today, and nothing would change.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You forgot the worst one: Putin, age 72 years.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Trump and Netanyahu are both worse.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Only wrong if you think white lives are more valuable than non-white lives

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Lol. What about the millions that got them into office in the first place? It's not a gender issue. It's a human nature one - acting out their insecurities by lashing out at the perceived enemy.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 18 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, blame all three even though its been clearly israel and Netanyahu who have been beating the war drums for 30+ years. Israel has been talking about Iran developing a nuke for 30 years and saying that "its around the corner". Israel did the same with Iraq btw and dragged the US to war.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You mean unlike the islamic dictatorship that was founded with an objective to destroy Israel?

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Oh no, another "we are the victim" comment

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Peak liberal both sidesism. Desperately clinging to the illusion that USA good, Iran bad. This is a big part of why we have genocide against palestinians and trump in office.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Where did you read "USA good" in that post?

[–] nyamlae@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Desperately clinging to the illusion that USA good

You are either being dishonest or have bad reading comprehension. The OP clearly labels Trump as part of the problem, alongside Netanyahu and Khameini. They also blame Israel for escalating with Iran when talks were still ongoing. They are not saying what you claim they are.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 hours ago

I think it's probably that Americans only do this "both sides are to blame" when their side is the one to blame

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Trust The Guardian to "both-sides" a blatant war of aggression and just completely fail to mention the massive genocide Israel is carrying out.

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[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

False equivalencies.

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