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submitted 11 months ago by monkic@kbin.social to c/climate@slrpnk.net

In a cost of living crisis, heat pumps and electric cars are out of reach for most. Britain needs to fund a genuinely fair transition – and fast, says Guardian columnist Gaby Hinsliff

Some of the resistance is undoubtedly down to the Mr Toad tendency, enraged by any attempt to prise their hands off the steering wheel. (Though clean air zones aren’t strictly speaking designed to force motorists on to the bus, by painting driving as a filthy, antisocial habit, they undoubtedly offer a hefty nudge in that direction). But there remains an awkward grain of truth in the argument that – ironically, much like air pollution itself, which is most lethal to the poorest living on busy arterial roads – clean air zones are toughest on people who can least afford to comply. That means delivery drivers buzzing around on cheap mopeds; white van drivers; shift workers dreading the day their knackered old banger fails its final MOT, because it’s the only way to get home safely in the middle of the night; and also small high street businesses struggling to stay afloat, worried this might be the final death knell for customers driving into town.

None of this changes the fact that pollution kills, cities need to wean themselves off cars, and the climate crisis poses an existential threat. But if going green costs money that not everyone has, then ultimately there are only two plausible political responses. The first is utterly unconscionable, since it means reneging on net zero. The second is to find the money for a genuinely fair transition, and fast.

This isn’t just about Ulez. There are some alarmingly big bills looming for millions of households in the name of saving the planet, and however clearly people might see the moral case for getting rid of their gas boiler or their old petrol car at a time when forest fires are ravaging Greece and flash floods are hitting Spain, money is money. If you genuinely can’t afford to switch, few things are more alienating than being made to feel guilty about that by people shocked at how hot it was on the beach in Sicily this year.

While it's UK-centric, I think the points in this article apply generally and globally, and we cannot shirk away from the fact that wealth must be redistributed fairly to allow people to reduce their carbon footprint. Normal people shouldn't be made to choose between their current urgent survival AND their communal/future survival. "Going green" should not be a privilege.

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[-] pizza_rolls@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Eating less meat is a great way to reduce your grocery costs in my experience. If we were buying meat as much as we used to our grocery bill would be even more insane.

[-] dillekant@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

It's almost as though we need climate justice.

[-] n0m4n@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

I have a building contractor friend tells clients that he can build good, cheap, or fast, pick any two. That adage applies here.

[-] greengnu@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

in software these days it is: good, cheap or fast; pick one (if you are lucky [usually things are just bad, expensive and slow as f&*k])

[-] RockyBockySocky@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Sustainable eating is cheaper and healthier - Oxford study

No car is better and cheaper than electric.

Fund public transport!

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 0 points 11 months ago

There is very little which hurts the rich more then the poor then carbon pricing and when you spend the money right aka for stuff like heat pumps, public transport and so forth it in the end will help everybody and most importantly the poor. Even more importantly the climate crisis is going to cost a lot more if not adressed properly, then if it is and most green technologies have usefull site benefits.

As for mopeds, e-bikes and electric mopeds are pretty cheap these days and electric vans are cheap to run for local deliveries and so forth. The German postal service even ended up setting up a electric van company, to produce them, as none of the manufacturers wanted to do it.

The problem is that that new policies have hurt the poor more then the rich in the last decades, so they naturally are suspect of them.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

yeah it irks me that we got these electric car incentives but they were not able to pass the electric bike one.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago

If you own a house and a car in britain you are not in any sort of economical trouble..

[-] hairinmybellybutt@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Exactly

And I would go further

75% of people living in western rich countries should just shut up and live a frugal lifestyle 5 years ago.

No more air travel, no beef, no vacation, etc

I'm PISSED at people calling themselves middle class or poor.

Western countries deserve to only eat pasta for twenty years if not more.

And I'm unemployed in a western country.

I feel gross for what I see around me. People will wake up one day in a war economy without war. They will feel shocked when people will start attacking oil refineries and gas stations.

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