Boeing should start building their planes out of rubber and change their name to Boing.
this post was submitted on 18 Jun 2025
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Amazing what hapoens when your planes come down on command and not without.
Mean while Boeing repeatedly punches it self in the face
Gee, I wonder why, when Boeing is crashing and burning, literally and figuratively.
NGL, the recent safety record of Boeing jets doesn't instill confidence. I am always relieved when I see my flight is on an Airbus.
They did before they took under McDonald Douglas. Ever since McD-D bought Boeing with Boeing's money it's been downhill.
Exactly - when McDonnell Douglas "reverse-merged" with Boeing in 97, the corporate culture shifted from engineering-first to finance-first, and we're seeing the consquences of that prioritization now with all these safety issues.
"Hey, you know those executives that decided to do the whole DC-10 cargo door that almost killed one airplane full of passengers and then DID kill another one? Let's put those sister groping fuck knuckles in charge."
That boeing is still allowed to exist at this point is a capitalistic travesty.
recent
Several years already... and eventually, it trickles down even into the hardest boneheads
Several years is 'recent' in aviation, compared to the high-profile early FBW crashes Airbus had and AF447.
AF447 was pilot error and not cheapening out knowingly on the construction to save money.
The whole Boeing 737 is completely outdated and wouldn't get approved today. Like they would have needed a new pilot warning system for years, but are just rolling by with exemptions after exemption
AF447 is sometimes blamed on lack of coupled sidesticks amongst other possible deficiencies in aircraft design. Pilot error doesn't happen in a vacuum.
Certainly not the same situation as the 737, though.
As someone said on another thread, โIf itโs on a Boeing, Iโm not goingโ
Or the odd Embraer - I know fuck all about them but at least it's not boeing
They almost became Boeing. Boeing basically asked congress to tariff the Bombardier C series so hard that nobody would import it. Congress responded by introducing a tariff even higher than what Boeing asked for. Airbus had a manufacturing plant in the US and made a deal with Bombardier to build the C series there to avoid the tariff. That's how the A220 came into existence. Initially it was selling so well that Boeing looked into buying Embraer to have competition in the regional jet market.
The a220 is really nice to ride in (though weird size with air Canada running them in a 2-3 layout). The engines are apparently a nightmare, but last I heard we're now seeing similar issues with pw's non-geared engines too, so everything is fucked.
It's a nice plane, but it's likely at a dead end. It was designed to be stretched and reach into the territory of the A320 and Boeing 737. Airbus doesn't really have an incentive to stretch it for a couple reasons. It would cut into their A320 sales which is selling like crazy right now. It also has a different cockpit layout to other Airbus aircraft so it's harder to cross train pilots from an A220 to other Airbus aircraft. Bombardier built a good plane, but the US Congress screwed them to protect Boeing.
That sucks. It was a nicer ride than any a320 variant I've been in recently. Though they've all been very old planes now that I think about it..
They are Brazilian actually.
A duopoly isn't good. I do hope there will be other manufacturers that bring more competition. Brazil and China are the most likely contenders.
While I agree with the Duopolies are bad statement. I don't see how Brazil or China would be able to break this in the near to medium future.
Brazil/Embraer are quite happy in the regional/ business jet niche. Their CEO recently said that they have no plans to break into new markets. And even if they would start developing a new narrow body aircraft, they would need at least a decade before they could deliver it.
China/Comac theoretically have a narrow body aircraft in production, but they seem to have lost the ambition to get this aircraft certified outside of China. Looks like they are unable to meet international safety standards with the C919. For the C929 or the C939 to be competitive , they would need to fly international and thus fulfill even higher standards than the ones already missed by the C919.
Yeah but the article is kinda general, it just rides the recent crash wave to bash Boink boink. We donโt know why the 787 crashed yet, we should wait at least for the prelim report, see if itโs manufacturing issue or maintenance issue. I do see Boeing struggling, hope Ortberg can pull shit around before next ceo reverts it back.
Killing whistle blowers will sour people on your brand