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[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 116 points 1 week ago (3 children)

jesus christ how many bad takes can one woman have

[–] catonkatonk@hexbear.net 93 points 1 week ago

To be fair, it seems like it's just one all-encompassing take ("The American Empire is Good, Actually").

[–] LodeMike 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Finite only within the amount of takes someone can reasonably make in their lifetime.

[–] larrikin99@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

She's actually creating bad takes as an ultratask, so she can create an infinite number takes in a finite duration.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 43 points 1 week ago

on the order of 30 trillion cells

[–] CocteauChameleons@hexbear.net 104 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Stop taking anything she says seriously, she’s a fucking neoliberal. She drank tea with Hillary and her daughter. And Id say she’s worse than the average neoliberal because she used leftist aesthetics to take peoples money and run.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Being a lib and trans is extremely incompatible she should move to the bottom of the ocean and stop dragging our community through the dirt

Trans people are everywhere and to be a lib is to deny trans people under imperialism's boot their existence. These libs are not ours and we should always say as much.

[–] Chertstone@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago

One of her thesis is for not-a-100% passable trans people, non-binary people and non-gender conforming people to "just shut up" and not ruin it for passable trans people, since thats the only way to get the respect of the vino bar/barstool normies

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You Natalie, fyi you can just not reply to people on Twitter. You could just log off entirely.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 73 points 1 week ago (1 children)

she thinks she's so "radical" and "subversive" by having the exact same middle-of-the-road dullard lukewarm opinion on the issue as most boomers did their whole lives

[–] Real_User@hexbear.net 50 points 1 week ago

You're forgetting one crucial difference: her videos have different colored led lighting

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 73 points 1 week ago

"If the Palestinians wanted self determination why don't they simply become Youtubers and make a 2 hour video once a year?"

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 61 points 1 week ago

Probably Palestine bad because Hamas throw gay people off roofs. Me source is ISIS 2015 video. That speak for all mooselums.

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Guess I'd prefer her stay silent than make a terrible "both sides/it's a complex issue" vid

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

The best thing a zionist can do is die, the second best thing is shut the fuck up

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

BIT IDEA: 2 hour long video where you just keep reading through graphic descriptions of Israeli atrocities with video and photo evidence, but you always describe the issue as being "complex and multifaceted." You don't cover even a single hiccup the Palestinians ever had (this gets pretty hard with post-Arafat Fattah since they are basically just Israel but wearing a mask). Screw it, do straight up historical revisionism and skirt around the entire history of the resistance so you don't have to acknowledge any of the actual "complexity" (funny that the only complexity of the issue the mainstream liberals know about is the resistance taking prisoners of war... which is just straight up legitimate? many of them don't know about actual missteps like the airport attack, the USSR's wobbly support of the resistance, the infighting, compromising of Fattah, etc)

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 55 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Natalie, you know you can simply not have bad takes, right? You can have good takes if you want. We'd all love for your takes to be getting better

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

People have been telling her that for years, but it seems that, in her vanity, she views sincere leftism as not extending beyond the childish non-reasoning of her nyanarchist phase as a college undergrad. Because of that, she has retreated to the only other possible view, which is craven neoliberalism. She's as obstinate in her wilful ignorance as any reactionary, she just positions herself as a false ally rather than as an honest opponent.

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everyone defending her in the other thread better go make a post on self crit today

[–] Chertstone@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago

Hexbear loves defending their parasocial media leeches.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Contrapoints is a zionist? This screenshot is gonna haunt her forever. Gonna be digging it up for years to come.

She could have kept her mouth shut but she's such a committed liberal she just couldn't stand not letting us know she even aligns with libs on zionism.

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

she probably had to say some shit like this so the DNC check would clear

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago

Absolutely stunned at the level of bad takes from her.

[–] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

contra when u gonna make a video about beanis

[–] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago

I hope never, we would hate it

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Let's take that as true. Is it not then incumbent upon the person saying this to think about why so much of her audience would hate it, what that says about her own position, and how to incorporate this line of questioning into her future analysis? Especially someone who considers herself a public intellectual on some level? Between this and the "tankies are just palette-swapped capitalists who uncritically support anti-west factions out of nothing but sheer ontological contrariansim" take yesterday, the thing that irks me about her (and all libs) isn't that she's wrong, it's that she's so smug and self-satisfied in her ignorance, so content to just echo the same self-soothing myths liberals have always told about communists to assure themselves of the innate superiority of their own ideas and minds without having to go through the tedious formality of actually engaging with the ideas and minds of others.

[–] larrikin99@hexbear.net 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

she wants to frame it as a minefield topic that her audience would be overly critical of and exaggerate her positions. But lots of creators have made videos already. Shaun, for example, made a perfectly succinct video that garnered no controversy. the simplest question is what takes would she be compelled to include in her video that Shaun did not?

Well, No controversy from his community. the contrapoints subreddit on the other handhad some things to say

[–] catonkatonk@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I find the "lmao u'lll get really mad so I won't say" shit really cowardly tbh. But then considering she believes that to say anything, she has to take two hours to do it, then maybe I can see why she can't be bothered.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Liberalism with Ent tree characteristics

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] larrikin99@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yes, it's staggering how he was able to condense it down to a mere 87 minutes, but remember this was released only 4.5 months after October 7th, so he had less ground he needed to cover.

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

Is it not then incumbent upon the person saying this to think about why so much of her audience would hate it, what that says about her own position, and how to incorporate this line of questioning into her future analysis?

This would be possible if her goal wasn't to just make money to fund treats.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago

Liberals don’t want peace, they want to critique peace.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

what if she thought they meant intellectual property laws?

lollmao

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago

I actually thought this at first bc of the h3 drama and was like oh no shit a rich youtuber is on the side of “fuck fair use and free exchange of ideas”

somehow she found a way to be way worse tho

[–] hollowmines@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago (17 children)

I don't think this screenshot equals "is a zionist" but it definitely wasn't not a tone deaf answer.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

I think she is leaving it up to us to engage in conjecture and it's hard to imagine, given both this and previous statements, her presenting a position that is anything other than some formulation of liberal zionism, where she wrings her hands about the genocide (whether she uses the term is coinflip) but makes sure to remind you that Hamas needs to be defeated and the hostages broken free.

[–] SnakeEyes@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The post isn't enough, but her timeline the last few years has a lot of "they would chuck you off a roof" and leftist are so stupid and puritanical for caring so much about Palestine.

Obligatory cognito hazard warning .

https://nitter.net/ContraPoints

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[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Saw someone on twitter say that in her pre-transition career as an atheist youtuber, she had very negative views of Muslims.

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[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] Carl@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

This set of tweets was a bridge too far for the breadtube sub, lmao

[–] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

Coming out in the war on genocide on the side of genocide

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

Holy shit what a fucking monster she is

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago

Never meet your heroes folks. Or read their tweets. Can't belive I used to be such a big fan.

Reminds me a lot of people I learned about in the Revolutions podcast that would generate a movmeent that would move left faster than them. Happened a lot to the bourgeois liberal revolutionaries in the French Revolution, for example.

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