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As liberal critics of the Trump presidency have scrambled for traction since January, one historical analogy seems ubiquitous: “If you want a model for what’s happening to America,” economist Paul Krugman wrote in April, “think of Mao’s Cultural Revolution.” From the New York Times to the Guardian to a slew of Substacks, commentators have presented Donald Trump as the U.S. incarnation of the Great Helmsman.

Like Mao Zedong, these pundits say, Trump is mobilizing an insurrectionary base to destroy bureaucratic and cultural elites, has created a cult of personality in which the leader’s will overrides all else, and is brutally intolerant of his ideological enemies.

What are we a bunch of Asians?!

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[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

There are so many parallels from Trump to hitler or mussolini, and these liberal idiots cant stop comparing him to Stalin or Mao. Their understanding of historical figures is truly a simplistic smooth brained understanding. good guy-bad guy

Then genocidal Americans historical figures: its complicated

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 6 points 17 hours ago

Then genocidal Americans historical figures: its complicated

That’s the weird thing, during his first term there were a lot of comparisons to Andrew Jackson floating around. This time around, not so much. I think this signals that libs are doubling down on glazing historical American figures, no matter how bloodthirsty they were.

[–] jUzzo6@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In my country we have public places named after “great statesman who won against nazis; it was different times” Winston Churchill, but try to propose naming something after Stalin.

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

but try to propose naming something after Stalin.

Not that we would, of course. He'd turn in his grave at modern communists doing that. He hated cult of personality nonsense directed at himself just as much as Lenin did. He didn't want the people to erect statues of him and name stuff after him.

But yeah, the double standard is ridiculous.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 7 points 18 hours ago

Let's be fair, he was openly tolerant of the cult in some facets of society early in his career and actively supported it later on. He personally awarded the State Stalin Prize, and he was involved in the production of hagiographic movies made mainly about himself.

Early Stalin's opposition to the cult was mostly in terms of how he was represented in Party publications and how other people spoke to him, but the statues and streets and so on didn't meet with the same opposition and he was already giving speeches in rooms with huge portraits of himself in the lead-up to WWII. I don't know the exact history of the naming of Stalingrad, but there's also that to consider.

Also, he competed with Trotsky (albeit much more honestly) in the construction of the cult around Lenin, so even if he did have a firmer stance on his own representation in his own life, he wouldn't have that much ground to stand on.

While Mao definitely could have also been a greater opponent of his own cult, he was much more strongly opposed to it than Stalin was.

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

lol more "WHAT ARE WE? ASIANS?" horseshit from angloids.

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago

Trump is leading the Great Bourgeois Cultural Counterrevolution.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

This is what we would have seen on January 21st if Bernie had won

[–] facow@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

American doing American shit

Western "Professor": This is actually like the Asiatic horde

[–] miz@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

jesus fucking christ

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 23 hours ago

A fresh wave of redscare propaganda incoming

I expect these allusions to communist vangard leaders will continue until they're able to forget about Mamdani. Libs will hear words like "Maoist" and "Stalinist" and wake up like sleeper agents ready to wage war against the communists.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

ℌ𝔢 𝔬𝔩𝔡𝔢 𝔥𝔬𝔯𝔰𝔢𝔰𝔥𝔬𝔢 𝔱𝔥𝔢𝔬𝔯𝔦𝔢

[–] pierre_delecto@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am drawing a blank, but there's a great quote about how stupid Paul Krugman is.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

“You have to really have tunnel vision and not understand the most basic economic history to make the misrepresentations that Krugman said.

And if I hadn’t met him, and I didn’t know how really stupid he is as a person, I would think he’s deliberately lying, but I have met him and he really is that stupid.

[…]

Krugman doesn’t understand the difference between paying a domestic debt and paying a foreign debt. And that’s because he doesn’t understand foreign trade.

If he understood foreign trade and debt, he never could have won a Nobel Prize. A precondition for winning the Nobel Prize is not to understand how international finance works so that you can act to preserve the kind of financial superstition that’s taught in the universities like the University of Chicago.”

Link

[–] pierre_delecto@hexbear.net 3 points 16 hours ago

Yes! Thank you

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 16 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

''I met Paul Krugmean once and this is the most stupid person I have ever met. He doesn't understand anything'' -Michael Hudson

This is the dude who made some shitty comment on Isabella Weber when she wrote a opinion piece on considering Price Control and its effectiveness to control inflation, he later apologize because the comments he made were inflammatory and not really talking about the substance of her argument

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 10 points 23 hours ago

Julia Lovell

Paul Krugman

lol.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

Someone should send the authors a link to r/presidents