One of my teammates used AI (our company heavily encourages it) to write code. It did what it was supposed to and the tests passed, but it was the most ugly and unmaintainable shit ever. For one example, I don't want to have to untangle a for i = 0; i++; i <= len(foo) {} that has multiple ifs inside that separately increment and decrement the loop counter i when trying to troubleshoot an issue.

[–] Ugurcan@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Why the fuck one uses Rick Rubin’s pic for the vibe coder? He’s a legend and he represents whatever AI is not.

[–] PolarKraken@programming.dev 6 points 13 hours ago

Rubbed me the wrong way too, dude is the exact opposite of AI. He IS clearly vibing in the photo however.

[–] msprout@lemmy.world 56 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

I am so sad that people I know (not you, OP) are using the phrase 'vibe coding' seriously now, like it's some new discipline of coding. It's a facetious term! The joke is that it's not real coding! Stop!!!!!

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

I’ve seen job postings on Upwork that mention “vibe coding” as a skill requirement.

They want vibe coders who can do the work of a team for a fraction of the price. And if the code is buggy they can always dispute.

So it becomes your responsibility to provide a team’s worth of proofed code.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 19 points 20 hours ago

Google's Instagram keeps seriously advertising "vibe coded projects"

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 19 hours ago

My company sends out emails like "vibe it up" with links to their vibe coding workshops.

I'm getting the impression that people need it explained that "vibe coding" is not supposed to be a complement.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 17 hours ago

Actually maybe it didn't start like that oh God

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibe_coding

I think they're serious

[–] basketugly@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I have tried vibe coding on a couple small hobby projects and it did not workout in any of the cases, zero out of 4 or 5 ish attempts. It will get you kind of close, but it takes way way too long and it doesn't work so you are actually just getting started. Are there actually techniques to vibe coding or is this all bullshit? I don't want to spend more time looking into it...

[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

I consider myself a bad hobbyist programmer. I know a decent bit about programming, and I mainly create relatively simple things.

Before LLMs, I would spend weeks or months working on a small program, but with LLMs I can often complete it significantly faster.

Now, I don't suppose I would consider myself to be a "vibe coder", because I don't expect the LLM to create the entire application for me, but I may let it generate a significant portion of code. I am generally coming up with the basic structure of the program and figuring out how it should work, then I might ask it to write individual functions, or pieces of functions. I review the code it gives me and see if it makes sense. It's kind of like having an assistant helping me.

Programming languages are how we communicate with computers to tell them what to do. We have to learn to speak the computer's language. But with an LLM, the computer has learned to speak our language. So now we can program in normal English, but it's like going through a translator. You still have to be very specific about what the program needs to do, or it will just have to guess at what you wanted. And even when you are specific, something might get lost in translation. So I think the best way to avoid these issues is like I said, not expecting it to be able to make an entire program for you, but using it as an assistant to create little parts at a time.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 14 hours ago

Generous to think vibe coders could write the feature in 20 minutes.

[–] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 5 points 16 hours ago

This slot just used 20 Watts of power for 3 hours || This GPU just used 2kW to write Hello World in sveltekit.

[–] four@lemmy.zip 9 points 18 hours ago

I think that's one of the dangers of AI: asking AI is a low-cost action (typing out a question), that has a chance to have big returns (saving you hours of work). It usually isn't worth it. But sometimes it is, so people keep doing it.

[–] je_skirata 5 points 18 hours ago

It all makes sense now. Another day I'm glad to not be a gambling addict

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

It's always funny how few people consider that AI might actually help you write better code. Instead, the discussion is reduced to “vibe coding” versus fully manual coding.

[–] abcdqfr@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Things go quite well with high order direction and guidance. Don't have that somewhere? You'll spend an hour learning and gaining that experience, or you can turn off your high order guidance brain and thrash the llm you haven't rate limited to maybe work it out in it's own.

[–] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 20 hours ago

Lol I have been playing with vibe coding on a small project, porting an existing thing. I let it build a lot of stuff without making sure it compiles. So now I'm at the "One more prompt for the bug to go away" stage, on top of that I have to spend a lot of time editing by hand.

I'm happy this is just a POC side project.