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[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"well, if the shoe fits"

well, if the shoe fits

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 6 days ago

Well, the shoe fits.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

I choose to believe these are rage-bait and false flags. Otherwise, multiple someones managed to learn a language with so little introspection and contextual understanding that I'd have to downgrade them to an LLM.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

why the fuck would I ever listen or subscribe to a subreddit know as r/israel

fuck net-nannny-yahoo

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 2 points 6 days ago

Wow they really got baited there haha.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 278 points 1 week ago (2 children)

attacking a defenseless neighboring people

They’re so close to figuring it out

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 121 points 1 week ago

They know. They like committing genocide. They just don’t want international consequences for it.

[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 1 week ago

Its antisemitic to say its bad to bomb defenseless people....

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 222 points 1 week ago (7 children)
[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I see where Trump got his name calling ideas from.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 137 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (28 children)

Someone have context if we haven’t seen the new superman?

Also I want to scream a million times. Israel isn’t Judaism and Judaism isn’t Israel! Mixing that up is problematic because you’re confounding anti-zionism (a settler colonial state project committing genocide) with anti-semitism.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 140 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Israel isn’t Judaism and Judaism isn’t Israel! Mixing that up is problematic because you’re confounding anti-zionism (a settler colonial state project committing genocide) with anti-semitism.

Mixing that up is intentional, so that you can be accused of being antisemitic by not supporting Israel. Politicians love to do this.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

At the start of the movie, Superman has just stopped an invasion. The fictional country Barovia, a US ally, has advanced weaponry and attempts to invade and annex a much smaller and poorer fictional country Jarhanpur which doesn't appear to have a military of any kind. Barovia is ethnically white (coded as Eastern European/Russian) and Jarhanpur is ethnically more middle eastern.

It is not a giant leap to correlate these countries to Isreal and Palestine, but really those superficial details are where the the similarities begin and end. There is no apparent religious connection to the invasion, nor terrorist activity. No ongoing tensions, direct involvement from the US goverment in the invasion, or any act of war or other event that triggers Barovia to invade. It is just a powerful country attacking a smaller country for their resources on the orders of a power hungry dictator. It's a trope that is not exclusively related to current events, that made as much sense 50 years ago as it does today. And the purpose of it in the film is to both critique Superman's naivete of geopolitics, and to reinforce his values that every life matters.

People that are mad about it and pretending that it is explicitly a depiction of the Isreali-Palestinian war are projecting meaning that isn't there, at least beyond maybe some subtext. It's always a bit telling when people see generic bad guys in a movie and think, "this is about me!" But, of course, if they felt that the depiction of the overwhelming military force against civilians made the Palestinians seem sympathetic to them... maybe they should think a bit more about why that is.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 106 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow, it's actually amazing how far they can combine self-awareness and denial so effortlessly.

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[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 89 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes it is totally Hollywood making Israel look bad, not the shooting caged brown people part.

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[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 89 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean the glass shoe does fit, soooooo...

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 88 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It’s not our fault your state became so evil they are interchangeable with cartoon villains.

All this whining about that movie makes me want to see it more and more. If this is intentional, it will be remembered as the best marketing campaign in history.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago (7 children)

The "if you're criticizing Israel then you are an antisemitic" argument is getting really really old and fucking tired.

I have never in my life had any issues with anyone who is Jewish just because they are Jewish. Nor will I ever. But I have serious issues with the state of Israel committing war crimes on a daily basis and expecting not to be held accountable.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago

This complaint is such an admission. They can't point to a single similarly between Israel and the bad guys in the movie except, "nation with technology advanced weaponry being deployed against unarmed civilians," and they're not even disputing that that's an accurate depiction of what's happening. It's not like they're saying, "this movie parallels Hamas propaganda." They're saying, "depicting colonial genocide negatively is anti-Israel."

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 1 week ago

"we're seeing similarities between us and fictional villains and we don't like it"

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (10 children)

"they're showing a country of mostly white people invading and brutalizing a defenseless country of brown people which is clearly about Israel-palestine"

c/selfawarewolves

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

"Global antisemitism on the rise". Is that because Israel turned genocidal against the Palestinians?

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

If I was a non Israeli Jew, I would be PISSED at Israel for that exact reason.

I won't say the same of Israelis, because looking at the percentages who are pro leave no Palestinians alive, they seem too much like a blood lusted cult to care about the opinions of.

And yes I know the Palestinians feel the same way, but the party with the bigger stick matters and always shoulders the burden of wielding that stick responsibly, and Israel has no interest in that.

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To be fair, by now, almost every Palestinian alive has legit and relatable reasons, unregarded of religion, to be at least pissed with the Israelis.

[–] loonsun@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago

As a non-Israeli Jew I will confirm, I am very very very fucking pissed not just because they have made the world less safe for me but because this poison of national narcissism has used our trauma as a tool of evil. I can't participate or be near my own culture anymore which was once a deep comfort for me who's last memories of many of my late loved ones being our shared religious ceremonies. The name of Israel on my lips in prayer now sours the kiddush wine.

[–] Mister_Hangman@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago
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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 58 points 1 week ago

If you see yourself in the bad guys actions, maybe do something else...

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 55 points 1 week ago

Self-awareness is tapping them on the shoulder but they refuse to turn around.

[–] midtsveen@lemmy.wtf 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

The whole “calling out Israel for genocide means you’re antisemitic” line is so worn out and honestly just exhausting, this post made me laugh!

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 4 points 6 days ago

It only hurt jews those false accusations

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