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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Round earth propaganda πŸ™„

We all know earth is a mobius strip.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Whoa, imagine being on the line between day and night!

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

Where I live we call that "sunset". Pretty exotic

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Is this gonna be on the test?

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Netherlands was pretty cool in the summer. We were chilling in Amsterdam night one and realized it was 1130PM and basically dusk.

[–] Hagdos@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's also because the Netherlands are wildly in the wrong timezone. Especially during daylight savings.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Bah it's only natural they'd be in the timezone meant for Berlin. Next you'll say Seville shouldn't be in Belgrade's timezone…

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

holy shit Dublin doesn't even have nighttime from May 15 to July 30. it's astronomical twilight all night

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Many people forget how far north Europe is because of the mild climate we have. Like countries like Ireland and Netherlands are as far north as Newfoundland. And these two countries rarely get heavy snowfall like Newfoundland. And Saint Tropez is on the same latitude as Vermont.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

NYC lines up with Greece.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It's pretty scary when you think about it: Europe's mild climate seems to be extremely fragile, dependent on the aligning of a few major forces.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

Those few major forces are slowly weakening. We'll have Canadian winters in Europe. Which, hey, I missed snow but also the gas prices in England will have me "wake" up frozen dead one morning

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

So the English went pretty far south to wind up in a frozen hellscape with what are basically hurricanes but with snow

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

Okay the city I live in has pretty much the same graph, and speaking from experience it's not as bad as you'd think at first glance. It's still dark at night, just for fewer hours.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Wait wtfβ€½

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Chaps in Glasgow at 1am trying to sleep

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I only see 1 chap in Glasgow at 1 am trying to sleep. Where are the others?

Are they in the dark part of the picture?

[–] RedSeries@lemmy.blahaj.zone 69 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (40 children)

Part of me wishes we didn't have timezones at all. Like normalizing the idea that some places have mornings at 22:00 and others have it at 07:00. Would definitely make my life easier not dealing with timezones anymore.

EDIT: I want to be clear, this is me pining for a world where any date or time is aligned without the need for conversion. It's impractical, skips the caveats that timezones help fix, and it's not really how we, as humans, think of or experience time in a day. Some of y'all really jumped on this, but it's not a serious suggestion. I do really appreciate the thought experiment and interesting discussion of it though!

[–] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Proposal: have a shorter way to write "global time" (or you could have, say, 4 quarter-global times), the same way we have C, F and K for temperature, then make that a more common way of communicating time.

Yeah UTC kinda does that but nobody uses it like that. Shorten it to U and it's much punchier. Also abolish daylight savings, too confusing.

If you don't wanna bias to europeans too much, use the international date line.

[–] myster0n@feddit.nl 65 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Without timezones, not only would the whole world live on the same time, but also on the same date. So, the sun comes up at 22:00, and then two hours later it's the next day. So, which part of the world will volunteer to have their date change in the middle of the day? I don't think the world would ever agree on anything like that.

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

if every communication is digital, you could have every time also displayed as hours remaining, you would be able to live with day rollover not when you sleep. It's not like the current 12AM day rollover makes that much sense anyways, it is neither sunset or sunrise.

I would love it if we de-associate time with daylight is so there's no more standard business hours, just have things open at all times and normal for people to be active at night. Every advantage of remembering timezone is easier only because we all just decided everyone should have the same schedule.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not just one place but almost everywhere in the world will click over to the next day during regular sun-up or just after sun-down hours. Only a few places will be lucky enough to have the date change during regular sleeping hours.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

8 out of 24, the lucky 1/3.

[–] RedSeries@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, that's already kind of an issue in the sense of determining what day something happened when using a timezone.

I think timezones help give a sense of shared "day" in the sense of when the sun is roughly meant to rise and set. I also think we're super used to them and I don't expect my opinion to change our relationship with time.

That said, timezones are wildly inconsistent and often difficult to track. This goes doubly for places that practice daylight savings of some kind. I like the simplicity of ideas like UTC and stuff.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'm a software engineer, and we have a product that depends a lot on recording the time that something happened. In the past, one engineer coded the on-device agent using local time, and later on, a different engineer coded the ETL server code using UTC. It's a huge headache, made even worse by the fact that the infrastructure for that server is in local time for a different time zone.

With a more normalized UTC, I think my life would definitely be a lot easier.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 31 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This makes things way more complicated.

When are timezones relevant? When dealing with people far away, or when traveling for longer distances.

In the first case it is far more easier to remember that John is +3 ours from you and Julia is -2 hours, than to have to remember when John gets up and when Julia gets up, and when they go to sleep and so on. Remembering "about my shedule but +/-x" is far easier.

In terms of flights it might seem easier at first, however once you land and realize that 13:40 means the middle of the night and everything being closed, you will quickly wish differently. Imagine for every further away place you visit you have to learn how the UTC translates to local opening hours, instead of just rolling with local time.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Nah it's way easier to have 1. You don't have to constantly adjust. Countries that can get away with it have 1, notably China.

France, Netherlands, Belgium, Spain should be in a different time zone, but they went to German time (because of Nazis) for a fairly uniform continent.

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[–] Glifted@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're basically advocating everyone switches to to UTC which is kind of already used when organizing online events

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[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I have an opposite yet equally radical proposal. Time zones are subdivided into infinitesimally small segments of longitude, effectively making them continuous. They are assigned to individual persons based in their current location on the globe and are updated regularly through geolocalization services like GPS. When you move, your time zone changes as well. Have a meeting at 10am? No, you don't. Living in UTC-8:00? It's UTC-7:58:33.0371 in your living room now. Going to work on your bike? Prepare for time travel. No GPS connection? The exhilarating sensation of timelessness.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Going to work on your bike? Prepare for time travel.

Did you know my car can travel through time? Just like everyone else's.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's actually what it used to be like before time zones. Every town would have its own time. Wouldn't be much of a problem when you had to travel to the next town by foot, horse or cart.

But I think when trains started to become more common they had to synchronise times.

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[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

I thought that too. The problem is that somewhere will have their day go through into tomorrow..... Which will cause so much confusion

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

You mean one timezone, not no timezones. Without timezones everyone uses their local time, just like in the 19th century when getting off a train meant setting your watch to the stations clock first thing

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[–] Marty_TF@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

holy fuck that is actually so fucking cool

I nearly dropped this in c/mildlyinteresting, but I also thought it was too cool.

[–] sepi@piefed.social 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been in Ireland during this time of the year and boy you couldn't tell by the cloud cover.

[–] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the cloud cover is just to save processing power on the twilight rendering, much easier to just apply a static flat light source to everything

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

they did the same thing during the victorian era with the smoke stacks, to save on horizon rendering. Things were so much faster and elegant back then

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wait until you hear about the Arctic circle...

[–] lime@feddit.nu 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

tomorrow is going to be the first sunset in kiruna since may.

here's an old photo taken sometime after midnight the 6th of june 2016:

panorama photograph of kiruna

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[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 11 points 1 day ago

Almost as if the sun sets earlier in winter or something πŸ€”

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago

Proof there is no god

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

But Africa is in the dark AF

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