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Where’s Firefox going next? You tell us. (connect.mozilla.org)

submitted 1 week ago by sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al to c/firefox@lemmy.ml

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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 week ago (4 children)

In no particular order

Kill off all AI in the browser. And don’t re-add it!
Do not use hidden extensions that can only be disabled in about:config
Make it possible to have tabs and a settable homepage in mobile Firefox
Make ALL telemetry and user tracking opt-in
Reinstate a fully customizable UI like in the past
Make it possible to locally load extensions (no, disabaling validation or temporary loading them for development reasons is not a solution)
Allow for app mode (see Chromium-based browser’s --app parameter)

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Make ALL telemetry and user tracking opt-in

i get where you're coming from but NO telemetry would be terrible for fixing bugs and idiosyncrasies

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not having telemetry was fine the last 30 years.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you say that, but have you ever tried fixing bugs only based on end-user reports?

there's a reason firefox has open tickets that are 25 years old.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

there’s a reason firefox has open tickets that are 25 years old.

And the reason is, they don’t properly triage bugs.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 1 week ago

well, that too

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

i don't think AI should be killed completely since some people may use it, but it should at least be opt-in.

everything else you suggested is good

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AI is the best way to offer local translations that don't send your private data off to someone else's server

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If the translations would be any good, yes.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

If it's your personal data, I would definitely not send it to a server. A bad AI translation is still better than sending a page containing passwords over the network

[+] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al -11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Kill off all AI in the browser. And don’t re-add it!

This confuses me because all the other browsers have integrated AI, so removing it makes little sense. I do think it will eventually move to the OS though and that time can't come soon enough.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

because all the other browsers have integrated AI

This is one of the reasons I started using Firefox again.

[–] hellmo_luciferrari@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just make the AI bullshit opt in. I don't want AI, and I'm not alone on that.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You're not alone, but you're in the minority.

Don't think I'm pro AI in the browser, I'm not. I appreciate some of the ML stuff like translations, but as for the rest, it should be shunted to dedicated apps or the OS.

[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A minority, based on what?

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 week ago

Telemetry

[–] hellmo_luciferrari@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

You can't just make claim like that, not show any sort of statisticd and expect to believed.

Where are you getting your data?

[–] HouseWolf@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All the other browsers have integrated AI, so removing it makes little sense.

To quote mine and probably most peoples mothers 'If your friends jumped off a cliff, would you?'

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Depends on what's at the bottom.

The reality is that if Firefox are the only browser not offering AI, they'll lose market share. Yes, all the basement dwellers like ourselves will be happy, but then what? Mozilla already kinda fucked itself by ignoring mobile, Chrome holds an estimated 66% market share with 30% of that estimated to be mobile only users. Firefox's market share is less than 3% in total. They need to garner users, not just appease old ones.

As I said though, I hope that all browsers can remove AI and it can be done at the OS level, so browsers can concentrate on real internet usage issues.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I honestly don't care if browsers add or remove AI, as long as it's opt-in and doesn't cost resources when it's off.

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

You have so little respect for your community that you used an LLM to write this obsequious, patronising announcement instead of having a human employee write it. Does nobody there care anymore?

[–] sunth1ef@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We desperately need a stable implementation of fission / true tab separation on android.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's actually pretty stable in Nightly

[–] sunth1ef@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's great news! I guess i should switch to nightly

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 week ago

Do it!

[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Remove the AI parts - and let people opt-in, for local LLMs if you think that is needed.

Revamp the settings, so they are clear, simple and all there.

Add a bookmark manager in the browser, that is simple, and can do the basic stuff like finding duplicates and test if the adresses is working and so forth.

Better security about addons...

[–] Niquarl@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Would be cool to have more options to clean bookmarks indeed. I've got so manybover the years, it would take to long to manually check each one..

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Revamp the settings, so they are clear, simple and all there.

I'm intrigued. Do you mind sharing your thoughts about this? What's the issue as it stands and how would you like to see things improved?

[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, the "General" tab is very long. It could benefit from being split up. Fx the theme and looks should have its own tab. Same goes for Privacy and Security. Split them up. Though there is an overlap between the two, it would make it easier for most regular users to find their way. At the same time, they would learn a bit about what is about security, and what is about privacy.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 6 days ago

Interesting. Thanks for taking the time to share. It's certainly food for thought.