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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

*Sounds of Nigel Farage scrambling to make a Tik Tok account*

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He's actually already the most popular politician on TikTok.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 17 hours ago

Yeah this is a real jackpot for certain type of right wingers

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, considering how good right wing influencers are at, well, influencing young people, this may not be good news.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Given that in the 2024 election the two most left wing groups (lab+lib+green voting) were 18-24 women followed by 18-24 men, probably not.

[–] G4Z@feddit.uk 33 points 1 day ago

I'm in favour of this, however it's only a fraction of what needs to be done to overhaul our voting system. We need to get rid of FPTP and reform the lords.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To me this is tinkering with the edges of a broken system. How about some proper voting reform?

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The public rejected that at referendum.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

How about an actual referendum on whether or not we need a better system rather than "do you want this plaster putting on it?"

Single transferable vote is not a solution to the first past the post problem. It's literally the same system with a minor fix which won't really result in any change since we effectively live in a two-party system anyway.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 12 hours ago

It was AV in the referendum not STV

[–] DavidGA@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

A generation ago.

[–] shath@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

the next generation has been deemed reactionary enough to vote

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If you can die for your country, you should be able to vote Edit: afterthought and more importantly, we're happy to tax them too.

I've always found it silly that one could legally have sex with their MP, but not vote for them

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Weirdly, you can only die for your country with parental consent if you're under 18.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

No, you can’t. Under-18s are banned from theatres of combat, as the UK has ratified the Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child. A few 17yo were accidentally deployed to Iraq, but sent home within 3 weeks.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This feels like a big shift for it actually to happen, but I think it's the right decision overall.

The idea that 16 legally a person can (with some caveats) live independently in their own home and raise a family, and pay all the relevant tax along the way, but not have their say in elections has always seemed incongruous to me. It's the young who feel the political outcomes the longest after all.

How many young people will actually turn out is another question politically though.

[–] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago

Haha. They're changing the voting age. Not your ability to have a tattoo, cigarettes or get married without your parents consent or hundreds of other things.

It's about keeping power. Not about helping you or me as citizens.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So those who voted on the right were mostly 16-18?
Got it.

[–] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Young people typically vote liberal side.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 20 hours ago

The liberals haven’t been relevant since the coalition.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So that’s Farage a lock for PM then.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Young people are becoming more right-leaning, but they still trend left/"left" IIRC. This shouldn't be a boon to Farage, though it also won't hurt him nearly as much as it would even a few years ago.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Lots of people witter on about young men becoming right wing in the UK like we're America, in reality young men were the second most left wing demographic after young women in the last election.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Anticipating the change, The Scum polled 16/17yo at the last election. Reform came 2nd behind Labour overall, but joint first amongst males. The Tories came last overall, with greens last among males.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Younger people still trend left, but they also may trend lefter than Labour. Which could mean more splitting of the overall vote and more unpredictability with our FPTP system.

[–] fire86743@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is a good thing, I think other countries should follow if they haven't already.

Like, they aren't lowering the age of consent, just the voting age. I think 16 year olds are more capable of voting responsibly than people think.

[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago

Age of consent is already 16 in the UK.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago

So you're saying that my man Niko has a chance?

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

Long time coming

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think there should be a voting age at all. Also think that prisoners should be entitled to vote.

Basically, I think everyone who is a British, Irish or Commonwealth citizen living in the UK should be able to vote.

I wouldn't be too opposed to other nationalities with Indefinite Leave to Remain voting either. Especially for council elections.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

So toddlers? Manifesto promises for free sweeties allowance and later bedtimes?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

If a toddler is capable of being registered to vote, going into a polling station, marking a ballot according to their own free will and putting it into the box, then they should be able to vote.

Also, free sweeties and later bedtimes are better manifesto promises than making the rich richer and the poor poorer